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peppermint



Joined: 13 May 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 30, 2004 7:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

johnriley007 wrote:
u.s.a.,
really helpful post. did you mention that the public school job came with housing? i have not found any of the public school jobs to come with housing. and 30 students/class?!?
the most i've had is 12 and i thought that was really difficult to control. any advice on classes that size and/or good websites to find public school jobs with housing? thanks Very Happy



My public school gig not only comes with housing, it's by far the nicest apartment I've had in Korea.

AS for controlling the kids- don't expect perfect behaviour but using Korean for commands seems to make them take you more seriously.
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FUBAR



Joined: 21 Oct 2003
Location: The Y.C.

PostPosted: Wed Jun 30, 2004 9:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

johnriley007 wrote:
u.s.a.,
really helpful post. did you mention that the public school job came with housing? i have not found any of the public school jobs to come with housing. also, now i teach at a company at night. i design the curriculum for thoes classes and it is time consuming, but rewarding. i think that it would be a lot harder to do that for kids though. and 30 students/class?!?
the most i've had is 12 and i thought that was really difficult to control. any advice on classes that size and/or good websites to find public school jobs with housing? thanks Very Happy


www.findityourself.com

But really, the only way to control the class is to discipline the students. You don't have to hit them, but they need to know that you won't tolerate their behaviour.

Mr. Pink gave me some good ideas before, but I haven't seen him online in quite some time.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 01, 2004 4:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My public school job included housing and it was pretty darn good. Most folks I've known who've worked in a public school also had housing provided or a stipend. Not everyone had this.

Class size: hagwon's by far have the fewest students.
My university classes had the most (50 at times).
Most public school classes are large (30 to 50). However, I now teach in America and have around 25 to 32 students per class. Darn I wish that'd change.

Discipline:
Had the least problems at the hagwon but a higher intensity. Because the classes were smaller and most kids wanted to be there (this was my experience), I didn't have to lay out the law much, but when a kid got testy, he/she got real evil knowing that I couldn't really lay out the law (considering the place was a business so profit and happy customers came first).

University. No real discipline problems there. Still many students with high levels of immaturity. Fair amount of late arrivals. Nothing I didn't see when I was in university.

public school. Just like my current position, hit em hard, hit em fast, and hit em early! (not literally hitting them.) You will have discipline work to do! Middle schoolers have the most but all students are manageable (spell?).

Don't hesitate to send a few student early on to a Korean teacher. Word gets around the school quickly that you don't take crap.

There is no need to be a nazi in the classroom. Just make sure the kids are clear that there are and are not acceptable ways of behavior in class.

None of the above jobs are cakewalks, and each has some type of reward.
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