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Rockhard
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| To the OP. You need to tell the government you are a non-resident. They'll find out eventually anyways. You think they are just going to let this go. They'll audit you if you ignore their request for a tax return. You have to fess up to being a non-resident and pay back all those HST checks. Sorry you got caught. Everyone does eventually. |
Another ignorant post. There is no way to "tell" the government you are a non-resident. They decide, based on several facts. Probably most of us keep our health insurance, driver's license, passport, and bank account. As well as memberships in different organizations (political party, organization, religious body, etc.)
You may also have a "home" in Canada. This could mean your parents house, or friends house, or any other place the CRA decides you could live.
From CRA website:
Significant residential ties to Canada include:
a home in Canada;
a spouse or common-law partner in Canada; and
dependants in Canada;
Secondary residential ties that may be relevant include:
personal property in Canada, such as a car or furniture;
social ties in Canada, such as memberships in Canadian recreational or religious organizations;
economic ties in Canada, such as Canadian bank accounts or credit cards;
a Canadian driver's licence;
a Canadian passport; and
health insurance with a Canadian province or territory.
The residential ties you establish or maintain in other countries may also be relevant. |
Funny how the ignorant call others ignorant.
There are many ways to alert the government to your residency status. The first, and easiest, is to pick up a phone and call the CRA. The second way is by updating your residency status through the CRA's My Account. (That's where you see all your past tax returns, CPP contributions, and so). Even if you do none of these the government will question you when it comes tax time anyways. You don't file a return, they ask why and determine your status for you. You ignore them then come home and file a tax return and they audit you. You do file a return but claim no income, they become curious, audit you and find out you aren't a resident and you have to pay back all that sweet Canada money. Simply using your parent's address as a permanent address will not give you residency status, nor will having a bank account there. And how do I know all this? BECAUSE IT HAPPENED TO ME! and it will happen to you too. Why? Because Canadian bureaucrats are nothing but consistent. |
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wings
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| Also, if you end up with a partner from abroad (as happens to many of us) and you decide to return to live in Canada with them, EVERY aspect of your life will be scrutinized. You won't get away with anything. |
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jvalmer
Joined: 06 Jun 2003
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| Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2014 9:11 pm Post subject: |
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File your taxes guys. Been filing for years with an income of amount between 5-10,000. Because in reality that's all I've sent home per year. Only thing I've been collecting is that GST refund. But maybe I should check 'no' to that next time.
Also note that 7-years is the max they'll keep your records for legal purposes. There a reason if you go bankrupt it effects your records for up to 7 years. |
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I'm With You
Joined: 01 Sep 2011
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| Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2014 9:48 pm Post subject: |
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| File your taxes guys. Been filing for years with an income of amount between 5-10,000. Because in reality that's all I've sent home per year. Only thing I've been collecting is that GST refund. But maybe I should check 'no' to that next time. |
I know people who said that they haven't filed a return in close to 20 years.
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jvalmer
Joined: 06 Jun 2003
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| Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2014 1:58 am Post subject: |
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| Unlike many countries, Canada doesn't keep records of when citizens enter and leave the country |
Canada & the US are two of only a few countries where you don't have to clear customs to leave the country.
Once you clear security and in that international terminal, there is no customs to put an exit stamp in your passport. |
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Rockhard
Joined: 11 Dec 2013
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| Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2014 6:27 pm Post subject: |
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| jvalmer wrote: |
File your taxes guys. Been filing for years with an income of amount between 5-10,000. Because in reality that's all I've sent home per year. Only thing I've been collecting is that GST refund. But maybe I should check 'no' to that next time.
Also note that 7-years is the max they'll keep your records for legal purposes. There a reason if you go bankrupt it effects your records for up to 7 years. |
Ummm...you don't have to file taxes in BOTH countries you live in, only one. You are exposing yourself to double taxation for no good reason. The money you sent home is already taxed in Korea. If you are collected GST checks you can still get busted for not being a resident despite being a dummy and double taxing yourself. |
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Rockhard
Joined: 11 Dec 2013
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| Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2014 6:30 pm Post subject: |
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| I'm With You wrote: |
| jvalmer wrote: |
| File your taxes guys. Been filing for years with an income of amount between 5-10,000. Because in reality that's all I've sent home per year. Only thing I've been collecting is that GST refund. But maybe I should check 'no' to that next time. |
I haven't filed a return in close to 20 years.
When I left the country, there wasn't even a form to fill out to declare Non-Residency status.
Never hear from Revenue Canada, but I don't have any financial or other ties to Canada either. I have a passport, ATM card with little savings in Canada, VISA card and a driver's license. That's it.
I called them once back in 1999 or 2000, just out of curiousity, and the woman I spoke with told me that courts determine if someone is a resident or non-resident, in the case that any action was ever taken against someone for unpaid taxes.
Canadian Andrew Hallam in Singapore talks a lot about this on his website and in his book Millionaire Teacher. |
But you also aren't collecting any aid from the government like HST checks, health coverage, welfare, baby bonus, etc...
Why would the government give a crap about you if you aren't taking any of their money?
We are talking about people trying to cheat the system by collecting benefits only available to residents, but not actually being a resident. |
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Who's Your Daddy?
Joined: 30 May 2010
Location: Victoria, Canada.
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| Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2014 6:38 pm Post subject: |
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| jvalmer wrote: |
| Been filing for years with an income of amount between 5-10,000. Because in reality that's all I've sent home per year. |
Your income isn't what you sent home. |
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young_clinton
Joined: 09 Sep 2009
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| Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2014 8:13 pm Post subject: |
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Canada spends money tracking down non filers like the OP? In the USA there is a 50-50 chance that you will be tracked down and audited over a lifetime.  |
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Stan Rogers
Joined: 20 Aug 2010
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| Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2014 9:03 pm Post subject: |
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| Canada spends money tracking down non filers like the OP? In the USA there is a 50-50 chance that you will be tracked down and audited over a lifetime. |
An American investment banker in HK told me that if you are American and have 6 figures or more in an offshore account you become a "person of interest." |
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Stan Rogers
Joined: 20 Aug 2010
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| Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2014 9:09 pm Post subject: |
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| Rockhard wrote: |
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File your taxes guys. Been filing for years with an income of amount between 5-10,000. Because in reality that's all I've sent home per year. Only thing I've been collecting is that GST refund. But maybe I should check 'no' to that next time.
Also note that 7-years is the max they'll keep your records for legal purposes. There a reason if you go bankrupt it effects your records for up to 7 years. |
Ummm...you don't have to file taxes in BOTH countries you live in, only one. You are exposing yourself to double taxation for no good reason. The money you sent home is already taxed in Korea. If you are collected GST checks you can still get busted for not being a resident despite being a dummy and double taxing yourself. |
I have heard of people being double taxed for doing what some here say they are doing. I knew a couple who returned to Canada after 6 or 7 years abroad and were nailed for $60,000 in back taxes. |
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schwa
Joined: 18 Jan 2003
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| If found liable, you have to pay Canadian tax on your Korean income, minus what you've already paid the Korean tax guys. Thats not being double-taxed. The difference in tax rates is likely substantial. |
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Weigookin74
Joined: 26 Oct 2009
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Is this for people who have not been declared non residents? Also, how would you file taxes with Canada. It's not like you get a T4 slip. My employer does most of the tax paperwork here in Korea. So, I wouldn't have a clue. I use to fill out my own taxes in Canada. Is there a special form you'd get?
I was declared non resident anyways. |
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jvalmer
Joined: 06 Jun 2003
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| Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2014 2:55 am Post subject: |
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| Stan Rogers wrote: |
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File your taxes guys. Been filing for years with an income of amount between 5-10,000. Because in reality that's all I've sent home per year. Only thing I've been collecting is that GST refund. But maybe I should check 'no' to that next time.
Also note that 7-years is the max they'll keep your records for legal purposes. There a reason if you go bankrupt it effects your records for up to 7 years. |
Ummm...you don't have to file taxes in BOTH countries you live in, only one. You are exposing yourself to double taxation for no good reason. The money you sent home is already taxed in Korea. If you are collected GST checks you can still get busted for not being a resident despite being a dummy and double taxing yourself. |
I have heard of people being double taxed for doing what some here say they are doing. I knew a couple who returned to Canada after 6 or 7 years abroad and were nailed for $60,000 in back taxes. |
Wondering what were they doing? What kind of income were they making to justify 60k in taxes? |
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Stan Rogers
Joined: 20 Aug 2010
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| Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2014 3:27 am Post subject: |
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| jvalmer wrote: |
| Stan Rogers wrote: |
| Rockhard wrote: |
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File your taxes guys. Been filing for years with an income of amount between 5-10,000. Because in reality that's all I've sent home per year. Only thing I've been collecting is that GST refund. But maybe I should check 'no' to that next time.
Also note that 7-years is the max they'll keep your records for legal purposes. There a reason if you go bankrupt it effects your records for up to 7 years. |
Ummm...you don't have to file taxes in BOTH countries you live in, only one. You are exposing yourself to double taxation for no good reason. The money you sent home is already taxed in Korea. If you are collected GST checks you can still get busted for not being a resident despite being a dummy and double taxing yourself. |
I have heard of people being double taxed for doing what some here say they are doing. I knew a couple who returned to Canada after 6 or 7 years abroad and were nailed for $60,000 in back taxes. |
Wondering what were they doing? What kind of income were they making to justify 60k in taxes? |
These people were not English teachers in Korea. And that amount isn't hard to accumulate considering it was 2 people over a 6-7 year paeriod. |
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