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Mix1
Joined: 08 May 2007
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 Posted: Fri May 23, 2014 8:49 pm Post subject: |
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| nuthatch wrote: |
It seemed to be expected in the culture for the boys to grow into this behavior. It was inappropriate and when I asked the principal to do something about it he refused and went on with his office baloney. I was able to control the class but when I wasn't in the class it was awful. I wouldn't put a son of my through that. I also saw teachers disciplinary students in the hall with a switch while they were on their knees.
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Good for them. Controlling them where you failed.
Good job to the principal too.
Your request was "inappropriate".
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On the other hand, I see a lot of U.S. society in deterioration...no manners, loud, brash, and aggressive/violent. |
Agreed.
That's what happens when you remove strict punishments and hierarchy in schools. You get a bunch of spoiled brats walking around treating people however they want to because they don't learn about harsh consequences.
Thanks in part to people who think the same way you do.
Spare the rod, spoil the child. |
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Chaparrastique
Joined: 01 Jan 2014
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| Posted: Wed May 28, 2014 10:19 pm Post subject: Re: You think your Korean class is difficult? |
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| Mr. BlackCat wrote: |
| Chaparrastique wrote: |
| bmaw01 wrote: |
| is a metal detector on every door. We had a student sneak in a carved t-bone steak because he wanted to shank another student. I've had to break up countless fights, |
The problem is that the west encourages violence as the answer to every problem. Kids are taught to fight from an early age. Not all cultures are like this. |
Unlike Korean culture that up until just a few years ago (and still to this day in some areas) had corporal punishments in schools, while all Western countries abolished it half a century ago? . |
Corporal punishment is quite different to the notion of physical fighting to protect your ego.
You're trying to amalgamate vastly different concepts under the same umbrella and then demonise the umbrella.
Your typical simplistic modern western liberalist thought processes go something like this:.
"People die in car accidents
So cars must be bad
 cars are vehicles
so let us ban all vehicles"
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| There are over 300 million people in the USA to the 55 million in Korea. Add in all the other "Western"* countries, there's bound to be more cases of crime and whatnot. So to link to one story, or even 5 stories, with no context, doesn't really do anything. People will pull stories out of France\, GB, Australia, South Africa, |
I've lived in all the countries you mentioned.
So I know well the commonalities of western culture.
One is that physical fighting is a strong part of the culture. kids are raised to "stand up for yourself" , 'fight back', "hit back" at anyone who "messes with them". fathers train their boys how to fight so that they can look after themselves in the playground and have "self esteem".
parents speak with half-concealed pride if their child gets into fights or is otherwise shown to be "tough". Yes there is some lip-service given to the judeo-christian heritage of "turning the other cheek" but in reality western society takes a large cue from the ancient cultures of europe that viewed the ability to physically fight as a virtue.
Police in the west do not view fistfights as serious, its not enough to make them put their coffee down.
NE Asia, on the other hand, views physical fighting as a complete breakdown of dignity and self control. They view blows, especially to the head, as a grievious crime and a chance to make lots money through litigious proceedings. |
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