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Who's Your Daddy?
Joined: 30 May 2010
Location: Victoria, Canada.
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I don't think it relates to nationality. I'd guess more it relates to where they grew up - big city or small town. I'd guess people from NYC or London to be more aggressive than smaller town people.
Something I think does happen here is the longer people live here, the more dying for conversation they are, and any excuse to talk, they'll run with it.
I met a guy that had been here about ten years, and basically he went on a 20+ minute soliloquy; asking and answering his own questions while I watched. It was bizarre. |
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le-paul
Joined: 07 Apr 2009
Location: dans la chambre
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| Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2014 4:50 pm Post subject: |
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| Who's Your Daddy? wrote: |
I don't think it relates to nationality. I'd guess more it relates to where they grew up - big city or small town. I'd guess people from NYC or London to be more aggressive than smaller town people.
Something I think does happen here is the longer people live here, the more dying for conversation they are, and any excuse to talk, they'll run with it.
I met a guy that had been here about ten years, and basically he went on a 20+ minute soliloquy; asking and answering his own questions while I watched. It was bizarre. |
haha + 1 for that.
I actually apologised to one of my adult classes yesterday because they asked me a question and i gave a 4 minute answer.
The problem with Koreans is, they're generally too polite to interrupt most of the time and will let you go until you runout of steam. You've got to remember to check yourself... |
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Chaparrastique
Joined: 01 Jan 2014
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| Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2014 5:17 pm Post subject: |
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| Don't have private conversations in public spaces. |
Korea does not afford any private moments. Everything is conducted under the gaze or hearing of everyone else.
e.g. try to find the right moment to say something private to one of your co-workers? Its virtually impossible. There is barely a second in the day where Koreans are not in a group or talking on the phone.
| Who'sYourDaddy wrote: |
| I'd guess people from NYC or London to be more aggressive than smaller town people. |
Yeah lets just say that old-fashioned manners have taken a hammering the world over, especially in the new urbanized culture. |
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wishfullthinkng
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| Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2014 5:34 pm Post subject: |
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i had a guy i was talking to in south africa call americans yanks. he held a high disdain for them.
but yes, the general consensus is that americans, australians and canadians tend to be loud, yappy and interrupting. |
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Sector7G
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| Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2014 6:25 pm Post subject: |
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i had a guy i was talking to in south africa call americans yanks. he held a high disdain for them.
but yes, the general consensus is that americans, australians and canadians tend to be loud, yappy and interrupting. |
General consensus of which group? |
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waynehead
Joined: 18 Apr 2006
Location: Jongno
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| Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2014 6:50 pm Post subject: |
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I'm British and had no idea it was an offensive term... when I lived in Manhattan I used it sometimes but I just assumed it was slang for American kinda like Brit, Aussi or Kiwi.
Anyway, I can't say I ever met the rude interrupting type in the US any more than other countries - bad luck perhaps that you just came across rude people. |
It's not offensive per se, it's just used in-country to refer to people from the North/Northeast. People from other parts of the country don't really identify with it, and people from the South would likely reject it and may be offended by it. |
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nero
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| Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2014 7:24 pm Post subject: |
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| cam83 wrote: |
I'm British and had no idea it was an offensive term... when I lived in Manhattan I used it sometimes but I just assumed it was slang for American kinda like Brit, Aussi or Kiwi.
Anyway, I can't say I ever met the rude interrupting type in the US any more than other countries - bad luck perhaps that you just came across rude people. |
It's not offensive per se, it's just used in-country to refer to people from the North/Northeast. People from other parts of the country don't really identify with it, and people from the South would likely reject it and may be offended by it. |
Sorry, but most countries refer to Americans as 'Yanks.'
I find Americans to butt in a lot, but my closest friends are also Yanks, and they are the quietest and most polite people I have met here.
You get all types, I guess.
Now, if we were to talk about VOLUME however... |
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cam83
Joined: 27 Jan 2013
Location: Seoul, South Korea
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| Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2014 8:00 pm Post subject: |
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| waynehead wrote: |
| cam83 wrote: |
I'm British and had no idea it was an offensive term... when I lived in Manhattan I used it sometimes but I just assumed it was slang for American kinda like Brit, Aussi or Kiwi.
Anyway, I can't say I ever met the rude interrupting type in the US any more than other countries - bad luck perhaps that you just came across rude people. |
It's not offensive per se, it's just used in-country to refer to people from the North/Northeast. People from other parts of the country don't really identify with it, and people from the South would likely reject it and may be offended by it. |
That's interesting. Is there something specific about the NE or South that makes it an unfriendly word?
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Kepler
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| Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2014 8:28 pm Post subject: |
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| cam83 wrote: |
| waynehead wrote: |
| cam83 wrote: |
I'm British and had no idea it was an offensive term... when I lived in Manhattan I used it sometimes but I just assumed it was slang for American kinda like Brit, Aussi or Kiwi.
Anyway, I can't say I ever met the rude interrupting type in the US any more than other countries - bad luck perhaps that you just came across rude people. |
It's not offensive per se, it's just used in-country to refer to people from the North/Northeast. People from other parts of the country don't really identify with it, and people from the South would likely reject it and may be offended by it. |
That's interesting. Is there something specific about the NW or South that makes it an unfriendly word? |
I think the history goes back few hundred years. The term "yankee" became associated with people from the northern US. "Redneck" became associated with those in the South. People in the southern US mostly came from the most uncivilized parts of Great Britain. European visitors in the early days of the US often remarked on the huge cultural difference between the North and the South. Southerners were less educated, lazier, more prone to crime and violence, and owned slaves. In the North, slavery was often viewed as a barbaric practice. Outside the US, "yankee" has been shortened to "yank". I don't think it's inherently offensive but I've heard people outside of the US use it in such a way.
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r2b2ct
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| Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2014 8:34 pm Post subject: |
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| cam83 wrote: |
| waynehead wrote: |
| cam83 wrote: |
I'm British and had no idea it was an offensive term... when I lived in Manhattan I used it sometimes but I just assumed it was slang for American kinda like Brit, Aussi or Kiwi.
Anyway, I can't say I ever met the rude interrupting type in the US any more than other countries - bad luck perhaps that you just came across rude people. |
It's not offensive per se, it's just used in-country to refer to people from the North/Northeast. People from other parts of the country don't really identify with it, and people from the South would likely reject it and may be offended by it. |
That's interesting. Is there something specific about the NW or South that makes it an unfriendly word? |
It has to do with historic animosity between the north and south. North-westerners would probably be ambivalent about the term. |
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cam83
Joined: 27 Jan 2013
Location: Seoul, South Korea
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| Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2014 8:47 pm Post subject: |
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| Thanks for the quick history lesson, I'll try to be more aware of using the term around Americans in the future. |
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waynehead
Joined: 18 Apr 2006
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Lord, I don't want to go too far down a rabbit hole here, because I know how these things end, but, cam83 seems to have a genuine interest, so -
'redneck' is not a word you should use to refer to someone from the South, or from anywhere, unless you have, say, cultural mastery of the word and/or are joking. It's similar in this way to ethnic slurs that have been reappropriated by the communities to which they refer.
The most polite way to refer to someone from the South of the United States is as a Southerner. Ref: I'm from the South. I'll leave it up to y'all to judge whether I'm more or less civilized than my Yankee compatriots from up North.
Another person pointed out that many people worldwide refer to Americans as Yanks, I don't dispute that, I just wanted to point out that in-country (within the United States) it carries more specific meanings that don't refer to all Americans. If you'd like to know this, great, if not, that's fine, too, but if the latter then I'd encourage you not to get pissy the next time an American calls a Scot an Englishman, or an Australian British, etc etc |
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northway
Joined: 05 Jul 2010
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| Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2014 6:50 am Post subject: |
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| Chaparrastique wrote: |
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| Don't have private conversations in public spaces. |
Korea does not afford any private moments. Everything is conducted under the gaze or hearing of everyone else.
e.g. try to find the right moment to say something private to one of your co-workers? Its virtually impossible. There is barely a second in the day where Koreans are not in a group or talking on the phone. |
Funny, as this is actually one of my favorite aspects of Korean culture. |
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Stan Rogers
Joined: 20 Aug 2010
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Yeah, um, totally never noticed this.
Also, who calls Americans "Yanks"?? |
Exactly. Call someone from Texas a "Yank" and see what happens. It's like calling a Welshman a "Limey". |
Damn right! Some of my best friends are from Texas and the thought of call them a Yank never even crossed my mind. They would be offended to be lumped into a group like that. But there are others I routinely call Yanks because they are Yanks.
Yanks need to be put in their place sometimes.
God damn them all! |
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Chaparrastique
Joined: 01 Jan 2014
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| Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2014 7:38 am Post subject: |
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| northway wrote: |
| Chaparrastique wrote: |
| northway wrote: |
| Don't have private conversations in public spaces. |
Korea does not afford any private moments. Everything is conducted under the gaze or hearing of everyone else.
e.g. try to find the right moment to say something private to one of your co-workers? Its virtually impossible. There is barely a second in the day where Koreans are not in a group or talking on the phone. |
Funny, as this is actually one of my favorite aspects of Korean culture. |
 it reminds me of waiting for the right moment to ask out a co-worker in a hogwon back in 2007. On the extremely rare moments she was on her own, either her phone rang or other people walked in just as I opened my mouth.
I dedicate this to Ji-Eun.
You don't know how long I have waited
and I was going to tell you tonight
But the secret is still my own
and my love for you is still unknown
Alone
How do I get you alone
How do I get you alone |
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