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KimchiNinja
Joined: 01 May 2012
Location: Gangnam
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 Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2014 11:30 pm Post subject: |
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| SHGator428 wrote: |
| Stan Rogers wrote: |
The article doesn't portray a complete picture of what is going on. It discusses the Chinese investment/money angle but the issue is more complex than that. The majority of people residing in Jeju are elderly Jeju people and retirees from the Seoul area. The influx of Chinese people has been large and very sudden in nature which makes many Jeju people feel overwhelmed.
Elderly Koreans remember the war and do not trust the Chinese. They do not want Chinese dominance back in their lives again. These elderly people are not particularly fond of communists either. So there are a lot of mixed feelings about what is going on. |
Did you poll all of the residents of the island to come up with that conclusion? If not, then this can't be taken seriously. |
I did. We asked some locals what they thought while hanging out there this year. They said there was "too damn many Chinese!!", but then again they also said it was "good for the business", all in all they seemed reluctantly for it. Stan's post seemed accurate; mixed feelings about Chinese investment. |
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SHGator428
Joined: 05 Sep 2014
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| Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2014 11:40 pm Post subject: |
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| KimchiNinja wrote: |
| SHGator428 wrote: |
| Stan Rogers wrote: |
The article doesn't portray a complete picture of what is going on. It discusses the Chinese investment/money angle but the issue is more complex than that. The majority of people residing in Jeju are elderly Jeju people and retirees from the Seoul area. The influx of Chinese people has been large and very sudden in nature which makes many Jeju people feel overwhelmed.
Elderly Koreans remember the war and do not trust the Chinese. They do not want Chinese dominance back in their lives again. These elderly people are not particularly fond of communists either. So there are a lot of mixed feelings about what is going on. |
Did you poll all of the residents of the island to come up with that conclusion? If not, then this can't be taken seriously. |
I did. We asked some locals what they thought while hanging out there this year. They said there was "too damn many Chinese!!", but then again they also said it was "good for the business", all in all they seemed reluctantly for it. Stan's post seemed accurate; mixed feelings about Chinese investment. |
My people made more effort than your people did to try and get to the bottom of the issue. We came up with different more realistic conclusions based on actual research. They all said that they want Chinese people there to support their flailing economy because nationals can't and won't do it. |
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KimchiNinja
Joined: 01 May 2012
Location: Gangnam
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| Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2014 11:46 pm Post subject: |
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| SHGator428 wrote: |
| KimchiNinja wrote: |
| SHGator428 wrote: |
| Stan Rogers wrote: |
The article doesn't portray a complete picture of what is going on. It discusses the Chinese investment/money angle but the issue is more complex than that. The majority of people residing in Jeju are elderly Jeju people and retirees from the Seoul area. The influx of Chinese people has been large and very sudden in nature which makes many Jeju people feel overwhelmed.
Elderly Koreans remember the war and do not trust the Chinese. They do not want Chinese dominance back in their lives again. These elderly people are not particularly fond of communists either. So there are a lot of mixed feelings about what is going on. |
Did you poll all of the residents of the island to come up with that conclusion? If not, then this can't be taken seriously. |
I did. We asked some locals what they thought while hanging out there this year. They said there was "too damn many Chinese!!", but then again they also said it was "good for the business", all in all they seemed reluctantly for it. Stan's post seemed accurate; mixed feelings about Chinese investment. |
My people made more effort than your people did to try and get to the bottom of the issue. We came up with different more realistic conclusions based on actual research. They all said that they want Chinese people there to support their flailing economy because nationals can't and won't do it. |
They ALL said that? And expressed no concern about the uncouth Chinese stinking up the place? |
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SHGator428
Joined: 05 Sep 2014
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| Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2014 11:49 pm Post subject: |
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| KimchiNinja wrote: |
| SHGator428 wrote: |
| KimchiNinja wrote: |
| SHGator428 wrote: |
| Stan Rogers wrote: |
The article doesn't portray a complete picture of what is going on. It discusses the Chinese investment/money angle but the issue is more complex than that. The majority of people residing in Jeju are elderly Jeju people and retirees from the Seoul area. The influx of Chinese people has been large and very sudden in nature which makes many Jeju people feel overwhelmed.
Elderly Koreans remember the war and do not trust the Chinese. They do not want Chinese dominance back in their lives again. These elderly people are not particularly fond of communists either. So there are a lot of mixed feelings about what is going on. |
Did you poll all of the residents of the island to come up with that conclusion? If not, then this can't be taken seriously. |
I did. We asked some locals what they thought while hanging out there this year. They said there was "too damn many Chinese!!", but then again they also said it was "good for the business", all in all they seemed reluctantly for it. Stan's post seemed accurate; mixed feelings about Chinese investment. |
My people made more effort than your people did to try and get to the bottom of the issue. We came up with different more realistic conclusions based on actual research. They all said that they want Chinese people there to support their flailing economy because nationals can't and won't do it. |
They ALL said that? And expressed no concern about the uncouth Chinese stinking up the place? |
Yes. They ALL said that they preferred the Chinese to the alternative. Go figure. |
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KimchiNinja
Joined: 01 May 2012
Location: Gangnam
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| Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2014 11:54 pm Post subject: |
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Yes. They ALL said that they preferred the Chinese to the alternative. Go figure. |
Okay, how many people were surveyed and how was the question asked? |
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SHGator428
Joined: 05 Sep 2014
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| Posted: Sun Oct 05, 2014 11:57 pm Post subject: |
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| KimchiNinja wrote: |
| SHGator428 wrote: |
Yes. They ALL said that they preferred the Chinese to the alternative. Go figure. |
Okay, how many people were surveyed and how was the question asked? |
All of them. The question was simple terms that anyone could understand. My people are experts in the field. |
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KimchiNinja
Joined: 01 May 2012
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| Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2014 12:01 am Post subject: |
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Hmm, seems highly suspect.  |
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SHGator428
Joined: 05 Sep 2014
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| Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2014 12:08 am Post subject: |
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| KimchiNinja wrote: |
| Hmm, seems highly suspect. |
Call it what you want. The people have spoken and it spoke volumes to the situation. |
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basic69isokay
Joined: 28 Sep 2014
Location: korea
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| Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2014 1:56 am Post subject: |
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Jeju govt is desperate for money.
Residents? They all say theres too many Chinese, in my years of experience there. |
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EastisEast
Joined: 29 May 2014
Location: Canada
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| Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2014 2:10 pm Post subject: |
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How foolish is the government? Soon it will be a Chinese island and the Koreans will be forced out.
Is it possible to buy citizenship and residence? Then its possible to buy Korea. First Jeju.... |
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Cave Dweller
Joined: 17 Aug 2014
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Wed Oct 08, 2014 10:33 pm Post subject: |
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Korea will get a silver medal for horking and spitting. Been to China lately? Their manners are atrocious.
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| The sheer horror of having hundreds of people snorting and spitting in the street was enough to scare away a number of Chinese investors. |
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Stain
Joined: 08 Jan 2014
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| Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2014 7:16 am Post subject: |
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| Korea will get a silver medal for horking and spitting. Been to China lately? Their manners are atrocious |
Yeah, but the Chinese cheated. |
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Chaparrastique
Joined: 01 Jan 2014
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| Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2014 6:24 pm Post subject: |
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| How foolish is the government? Soon it will be a Chinese island and the Koreans will be forced out.... |
They'll still have dokdo.. Lol. |
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cj1976
Joined: 26 Oct 2005
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| Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2014 6:33 pm Post subject: |
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I brought this topic up in an adult conversation class. Some of the students expressed a certain degree of antipathy towards the influx of Chinese people - citing factors such as the Chinese unwilling to learn Korean, bringing their own culture as opposed to assimilating into the native system etc.
However, another student was seemingly more open-minded and more worldly. He told them how Korean expats in the Philippines are viewed in a similar way, and it kind of stunned his classmates into silence.
It is exactly the same as the British expats moving to Spain and colonizing whole towns. |
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Contradicto87
Joined: 30 Jul 2015
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| Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2015 2:01 am Post subject: |
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| The sheer horror of having hundreds of people snorting and spitting in the street was enough to scare away a number of Chinese investors. |
You've clearly never been to China.
Also, offer a visa for $500,000 and what do you expect to happen? It's basically an offer for China to buy Jeju. |
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