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Weigookin74
Joined: 26 Oct 2009
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 Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2014 3:27 pm Post subject: |
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| PatrickGHBusan wrote: |
Getting rid of the photo will not change much...
Most employer/recruiters require information that includes date of birth. That coupled with gender (ie its in your name) means that if an employer wishes to hire female teachers, white teachers...he or she can.
Furthermore, as long as the market remains an employers market with a glut of applicants, employers/recruiters can pick and choose. |
US unemployment rate is 5.9% this month. So, let's hope (cause hope is all we have at this point) that between this and the rise of China that it's flush out this market somewhat and make it more like the good old days. While, I'm sure the golden age is done, there may still be a mini boom for us at some point if less young Americans stay home because they can get a job now. |
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atwood
Joined: 26 Dec 2009
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| Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2014 4:14 pm Post subject: |
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| Weigookin74 wrote: |
| PatrickGHBusan wrote: |
Getting rid of the photo will not change much...
Most employer/recruiters require information that includes date of birth. That coupled with gender (ie its in your name) means that if an employer wishes to hire female teachers, white teachers...he or she can.
Furthermore, as long as the market remains an employers market with a glut of applicants, employers/recruiters can pick and choose. |
US unemployment rate is 5.9% this month. So, let's hope (cause hope is all we have at this point) that between this and the rise of China that it's flush out this market somewhat and make it more like the good old days. While, I'm sure the golden age is done, there may still be a mini boom for us at some point if less young Americans stay home because they can get a job now. |
"The good old days" ain't coming back. That ship has sailed.
Think about this--even tenured (Korean) professors haven't gotten a raise at one SKY university in six years. |
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MisterL
Joined: 19 Oct 2014
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| Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2014 7:48 pm Post subject: |
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| 'Discrimination' is natural, we all discriminate everyday; it's called 'choosing', and people are (or should be) free to choose. |
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EZE
Joined: 05 May 2012
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| Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 3:18 am Post subject: |
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| KimchiNinja wrote: |
| Large number, small number, pay attention to it, or ignore it, human nature WILL NOT change. Thus pointless waste of time. |
Human nature won't change, but the civil rights laws in the American South prove that such laws open doors even if they don't change human nature.
For example, there are some medical clinics in Bundang and probably elsewhere in Korea that are off limits to people who aren't Korean or white. People doubtlessly ran into the same issue in states like Alabama and Mississippi before the Civil Rights Act. In 2014, it would be unheard of for a hospital to refuse someone based on race in Montgomery or Hattiesburg. But it happens in Korea even though personal attitudes on race in Alabama, Gyeonggi-do, and Mississippi are pretty comparable. |
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Weigookin74
Joined: 26 Oct 2009
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| Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 4:05 pm Post subject: |
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| EZE wrote: |
| KimchiNinja wrote: |
| Large number, small number, pay attention to it, or ignore it, human nature WILL NOT change. Thus pointless waste of time. |
Human nature won't change, but the civil rights laws in the American South prove that such laws open doors even if they don't change human nature.
For example, there are some medical clinics in Bundang and probably elsewhere in Korea that are off limits to people who aren't Korean or white. People doubtlessly ran into the same issue in states like Alabama and Mississippi before the Civil Rights Act. In 2014, it would be unheard of for a hospital to refuse someone based on race in Montgomery or Hattiesburg. But it happens in Korea even though personal attitudes on race in Alabama, Gyeonggi-do, and Mississippi are pretty comparable. |
I'm sure attitudes are not the same in Alabama and Mississippi as what they were 60 years ago. They were dragged kicking and screaming into civil rights and no doubt many of the old geyers quietly still feel that way. But the use of TV, Internet, Education, Civil Rights laws, etc probably means most people aren't racist there or at least like what they were (though maybe still so in comparison to the rest of the country). |
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Weigookin74
Joined: 26 Oct 2009
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| Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2014 4:11 pm Post subject: |
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There was a bill before the legislature hill against racism but it failed, because it also had sexual orientation along with the other isms in it. It's too much change too quickly. When you bring about change you do so incrementaly to have success. In the west, first came laws against racism, then later - sexism, then ageism, then much later sexual orientation.
Korea should take the same piecemeal approach. Lumping it all in at once shocked the system and the system ganged up on to make the proposal fail.
Also, in the west, left wing parties and candidates appeal to emotion and try to peel off women voters. Right wing parties try to appeal to logic and attract men voters. Given that women get the short end of the stick here, it's surprising candidates don't try to appeal to them more like promising to ban sexism, etc. Populist appeals here seem to have not much place unless it's bashing japan or America, I guess. |
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