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atwood



Joined: 26 Dec 2009

PostPosted: Thu Mar 19, 2015 12:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jazzmaster wrote:
During peak times the buses are always mobbed. Why don't they start introducing double decker buses?

Just searched the internet and it looks like they are introducing double decker buses. Has anyone seen one yet?

I hope they give the drivers training on steering higher center of gravity buses.

I don't know why they just don't use the longer articulated buses. For one, buses with stairs doesn't make a lot of sense when you're serving an older population. And then they'll start touting the double-decker buses as tourist attractions and calling Seoul the London of Asia.
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Died By Bear



Joined: 13 Jul 2010
Location: On the big lake they call Gitche Gumee

PostPosted: Thu Mar 19, 2015 2:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

atwood wrote:

I hope they give the drivers training on steering higher center of gravity buses.


It's going to be a disaster. Hopefully they'll get more training before they cut them loose.


atwood wrote:

I don't know why they just don't use the longer articulated buses. For one, buses with stairs doesn't make a lot of sense when you're serving an older population. And then they'll start touting the double-decker buses as tourist attractions and calling Seoul the London of Asia.


LOL
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jazzmaster



Joined: 30 Sep 2013

PostPosted: Thu Mar 19, 2015 2:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

atwood wrote:
jazzmaster wrote:
During peak times the buses are always mobbed. Why don't they start introducing double decker buses?

Just searched the internet and it looks like they are introducing double decker buses. Has anyone seen one yet?

I hope they give the drivers training on steering higher center of gravity buses.

I don't know why they just don't use the longer articulated buses. For one, buses with stairs doesn't make a lot of sense when you're serving an older population. And then they'll start touting the double-decker buses as tourist attractions and calling Seoul the London of Asia.


Driver training is a good idea. The centre of gravity on a double decker bus is not as high as many people think. It is very rare for a double decker to tip over due to driver error, although if anyone can do it I'm sure Korean bus drivers can do it.
Articulated buses are actually being phased out in London due to higher instances of accidents. I'd agree that younger people should be encouraged to sit upstairs in order to give elderly people priority over easy access seats.
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Yaya



Joined: 25 Feb 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Thu Mar 19, 2015 5:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Back to the topic. Koreans are now studying Mandarin more than before despite traditional Korean wariness of China and Chinese, yet I've been reading that unless you're a native speaker of Chinese, the language won't help all that much in business and work.

Plus I'm wondering what will happen to Korean real estate given that rich Chinese are buying up properties worldwide and raising the cost of living as a result.
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Smithington



Joined: 14 Dec 2011

PostPosted: Thu Mar 19, 2015 5:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

atwood wrote:
cj1976 wrote:
The subway here is quite orderly, on the whole. It's the bus stops where people go nuts and just shove each other out of the way. Regardless of age, the bus stop is a free-for-all mosh pit compared to the subway.
The Chinese are becoming the new Americans. Overpaid, overfed and over here! It's cool to hate the Chinese now.

Your definition of orderly is obviously different from mine.

The bus stops that I frequent now have dedicated lines and instructions to leave gaps. Few have the nerve to break in line these days.


You must be friggin' joking.
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atwood



Joined: 26 Dec 2009

PostPosted: Thu Mar 19, 2015 6:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Smithington wrote:
atwood wrote:
cj1976 wrote:
The subway here is quite orderly, on the whole. It's the bus stops where people go nuts and just shove each other out of the way. Regardless of age, the bus stop is a free-for-all mosh pit compared to the subway.
The Chinese are becoming the new Americans. Overpaid, overfed and over here! It's cool to hate the Chinese now.

Your definition of orderly is obviously different from mine.

The bus stops that I frequent now have dedicated lines and instructions to leave gaps. Few have the nerve to break in line these days.


You must be friggin' joking.

Nope. In fact there was a report on them on Korean TV news.

I guess it all depends on where you live and how smart you are. If the stop I went to was the scrum being described here, I'd wise up and walk to the stop either before or after it.
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Brooks



Joined: 08 Apr 2003

PostPosted: Thu Mar 19, 2015 6:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well Yaya,
Chinese helps for those who deal with Chinese tourists.
Go to Lotte Hotel to see what I mean.

Right now there are so many Chinese going abroad, to go shopping, whether in Seoul or Tokyo, or other places.
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Yaya



Joined: 25 Feb 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Thu Mar 19, 2015 8:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brooks wrote:
Well Yaya,
Chinese helps for those who deal with Chinese tourists.
Go to Lotte Hotel to see what I mean.

Right now there are so many Chinese going abroad, to go shopping, whether in Seoul or Tokyo, or other places.


I'm not saying it's useless but perhaps it's overrated and such. Knowing basic phrases and expressions are helpful but will it land you a great job and such other than in the tourist industry, which is notorious for low wages, high stress and long hours?

The craze for teaching Chinese may be a misguided fad

http://www.economist.com/node/10180807
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EZE



Joined: 05 May 2012

PostPosted: Fri Mar 20, 2015 3:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

atwood wrote:
Smithington wrote:
atwood wrote:
cj1976 wrote:
The subway here is quite orderly, on the whole. It's the bus stops where people go nuts and just shove each other out of the way. Regardless of age, the bus stop is a free-for-all mosh pit compared to the subway.
The Chinese are becoming the new Americans. Overpaid, overfed and over here! It's cool to hate the Chinese now.

Your definition of orderly is obviously different from mine.

The bus stops that I frequent now have dedicated lines and instructions to leave gaps. Few have the nerve to break in line these days.


You must be friggin' joking.

Nope. In fact there was a report on them on Korean TV news.

I guess it all depends on where you live and how smart you are. If the stop I went to was the scrum being described here, I'd wise up and walk to the stop either before or after it.


It varies widely from location to location. For example, at the bus stops at Sadang station, people line up in a disciplined manner. At Yatap station, it's a free for all.
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SHGator428



Joined: 05 Sep 2014

PostPosted: Fri Mar 20, 2015 7:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lol. A Thai made a video about some Chinese being unable to que. Get over it. This shite happens.
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Yaya



Joined: 25 Feb 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Fri Mar 20, 2015 7:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SHGator428 wrote:
Lol. A Thai made a video about some Chinese being unable to que. Get over it. This shite happens.


To think Koreans were considered the worst at one point (though of course, I've always disliked Germans when I travel). The Koreans are NOTHING compared to Chinese in rude behavior abroad.
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SHGator428



Joined: 05 Sep 2014

PostPosted: Fri Mar 20, 2015 8:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yaya wrote:
SHGator428 wrote:
Lol. A Thai made a video about some Chinese being unable to que. Get over it. This shite happens.


To think Koreans were considered the worst at one point (though of course, I've always disliked Germans when I travel). The Koreans are NOTHING compared to Chinese in rude behavior abroad.


China is a pretty big country. They don't all act that way do they?

Comparatively, Korea is miniscule when it comes to Asian populous countries, yet they have a propensity for being poor travelers.

Are all of them that way? Nope. Much like Chinese where K's took most of their manners/thoughts from.


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3DR



Joined: 24 May 2009

PostPosted: Fri Mar 20, 2015 8:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SHGator428 wrote:
Yaya wrote:
SHGator428 wrote:
Lol. A Thai made a video about some Chinese being unable to que. Get over it. This shite happens.


To think Koreans were considered the worst at one point (though of course, I've always disliked Germans when I travel). The Koreans are NOTHING compared to Chinese in rude behavior abroad.


China is a pretty big country. They don't all act that way do they?

Comparatively, Korea is miniscule when it comes to Asian populous countries, yet they have a propensity for being poor travelers.

Are all of them that way? Nope. Much like Chinese where K's took their most of their manners/thoughts from.


In other words, you moved the goal posts to justify one generalization and move them back again to align with your Korean hate.
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SHGator428



Joined: 05 Sep 2014

PostPosted: Fri Mar 20, 2015 8:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

3DR wrote:
SHGator428 wrote:
Yaya wrote:
SHGator428 wrote:
Lol. A Thai made a video about some Chinese being unable to que. Get over it. This shite happens.


To think Koreans were considered the worst at one point (though of course, I've always disliked Germans when I travel). The Koreans are NOTHING compared to Chinese in rude behavior abroad.


China is a pretty big country. They don't all act that way do they?

Comparatively, Korea is miniscule when it comes to Asian populous countries, yet they have a propensity for being poor travelers.

Are all of them that way? Nope. Much like Chinese where K's took their most of their manners/thoughts from.


In other words, you moved the goal posts to justify one generalization and move them back again to align with your Korean hate.


What?

You are that guy that never starts threads, has an original thought and always quips in other's coat tailing, right?
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Stan Rogers



Joined: 20 Aug 2010

PostPosted: Fri Mar 20, 2015 9:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My friends at the airport say they deal with lots of Chinese like that everyday.
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