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| How many hours have you spent studying Korean? |
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ghostrider
Joined: 27 Jun 2011
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=klYXSWFb-8I
He attained fluency while not even living in Korea. You live in an environment much more conducive to learning Korean. So what's stopping you? |
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ghostrider
Joined: 27 Jun 2011
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| Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2015 9:52 pm Post subject: |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHDOvZmDTDA
He's an American professor at SNU who teaches in the Korean language education department. He teaches Koreans how to teach the Korean language. He has been learning Korean since 1983 so he has had plenty of time to study the necessary number of hours. |
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World Traveler
Joined: 29 May 2009
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| Posted: Sun Apr 05, 2015 7:03 pm Post subject: |
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| wooden nickels wrote: |
| I have an on campus BA with Honors and an on campus MA with Honors, teacher certification. I speak 2 languages fluently, neither are Korean. I own a home in Korea, debt free. I own a business in Korea, debt free. I have a small investment in my home country paid for. I'm building a pension here in Korea. I'm building a cash fund for retirement here> |
So if you live here now, have lived here for over a decade, have a Korean wife, and plan on retiring here in Korea, why not learn the language?
Answer: the older one gets, the harder it becomes to learn another language.
Hearing loss makes it harder to grasp what is being said in one's own language let alone a foreign one.
Korean is really freaking hard to hear and comprehend.
I used to think the speaking/pronunciation part was the most difficult aspect of the language.
At one point I thought it was all the endless convoluted grammar one must know.
Now I think it's listening.
For a full speed conversation- not easy at all.
(But hell, maybe that's just me; maybe it varies person to person.) |
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wooden nickels
Joined: 23 May 2010
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| Posted: Sun Apr 05, 2015 11:03 pm Post subject: |
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Good point!
I could learn Taekwondo, but is it worth the time and effort. |
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chrisinkorea2011
Joined: 16 Jan 2011
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| Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2015 5:27 pm Post subject: |
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Good point!
I could learn Taekwondo, but is it worth the time and effort. |
Well its honestly an entry level martial arts/sport so it would be great to learn if you were going to branch out into other martial arts lol.
Im curious Wooden as to how old you are and when you started your path to your present situation. Im 32, I have a nice chunk of change and am most likely going to be a lifer here after marrying a korean. Im wondering about whether I should buy an apartment as well as another one and rent it out. Thoughts? Thanks in advance! |
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Underwaterbob
Joined: 08 Jan 2005
Location: In Cognito
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| Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2015 5:46 pm Post subject: |
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Very few, I only ever really studied the alphabet so I could read, then a tiny bit of grammar. After that it was mostly learning from people I know and from teaching. Combine that with the length of time I've actually been here and my Korean ability is not terrible, but not exactly conversational either.
The point I'm at right now, I'd love to be much better at the language, but at the same time, I keep myself quite busy with school and a couple of hobbies I'm unwilling to give up. The only way I'm going to really improve is to immerse myself in the language and to memorize a bunch of vocabulary and grammar points I'm going to actually need to use approximately never. I'd still like to do it though. Couldn't hurt to have some more marketable skills in these uncertain ESL times. |
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wooden nickels
Joined: 23 May 2010
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| Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2015 12:16 am Post subject: |
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| chrisinkorea2011 wrote: |
| wooden nickels wrote: |
Good point!
I could learn Taekwondo, but is it worth the time and effort. |
Well its honestly an entry level martial arts/sport so it would be great to learn if you were going to branch out into other martial arts lol.
Im curious Wooden as to how old you are and when you started your path to your present situation. Im 32, I have a nice chunk of change and am most likely going to be a lifer here after marrying a korean. Im wondering about whether I should buy an apartment as well as another one and rent it out. Thoughts? Thanks in advance! |
BA Education/Language Degree - 22
MA Education/Language Degree - 31
20 years teaching in US
Asia
Europe
Asia: public school, hakwon
Self Employed
Buy low - Sell high |
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chrisinkorea2011
Joined: 16 Jan 2011
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| Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2015 9:55 pm Post subject: |
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| wooden nickels wrote: |
| chrisinkorea2011 wrote: |
| wooden nickels wrote: |
Good point!
I could learn Taekwondo, but is it worth the time and effort. |
Well its honestly an entry level martial arts/sport so it would be great to learn if you were going to branch out into other martial arts lol.
Im curious Wooden as to how old you are and when you started your path to your present situation. Im 32, I have a nice chunk of change and am most likely going to be a lifer here after marrying a korean. Im wondering about whether I should buy an apartment as well as another one and rent it out. Thoughts? Thanks in advance! |
BA Education/Language Degree - 22
MA Education/Language Degree - 31
20 years teaching in US
Asia
Europe
Asia: public school, hakwon
Self Employed
Buy low - Sell high |
Ahh okay cool. So im thinking of doing that too. thanks for the info again! |
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wooden nickels
Joined: 23 May 2010
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| Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2015 3:21 am Post subject: |
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| chrisinkorea2011 wrote: |
| wooden nickels wrote: |
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| wooden nickels wrote: |
Good point!
I could learn Taekwondo, but is it worth the time and effort. |
Well its honestly an entry level martial arts/sport so it would be great to learn if you were going to branch out into other martial arts lol.
Im curious Wooden as to how old you are and when you started your path to your present situation. Im 32, I have a nice chunk of change and am most likely going to be a lifer here after marrying a korean. Im wondering about whether I should buy an apartment as well as another one and rent it out. Thoughts? Thanks in advance! |
BA Education/Language Degree - 22
MA Education/Language Degree - 31
20 years teaching in US
Asia
Europe
Asia: public school, hakwon
Self Employed
Buy low - Sell high |
Ahh okay cool. So im thinking of doing that too. thanks for the info again! |
I'm not a financial guru. For the most part, I think I've just always worked 20% more than my friends and saved 30% more than my friends. I like going on saving binges. |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired
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| Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2015 5:52 am Post subject: |
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Well, my opinion would be A, I think anyone who decides to become a lifer in Korea is a loser, not sure about lazy and irrational but definitely unambitious and most likely "unintelligent".
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Nah.
Being a lifer in Korea doesn't make one a loser.
There is only one definition of a 'loser' as far as lifestyle choices regarding living in a particular place goes and that is a person who hates their existence in xyz but won't do anything about it.
If one enjoys Korea and their life there, makes them a bit of a winner in my book. I know people who fit that description and I don't regard them as 'losers' in any way whatsoever - even though Korea isn't my personal cup of tea. |
I agree with this. And just to expand on the question a bit. If someone has a strong marriage to a local who wants to stay in Korea and this person has a steady decent job that is equivalent to anything he or she could possibly get back in their home country...why not stay? So exactly how does this criteria automatically make someone a "loser"? |
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edwardcatflap
Joined: 22 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2015 2:10 pm Post subject: |
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I agree with this. And just to expand on the question a bit. If someone has a strong marriage to a local who wants to stay in Korea and this person has a steady decent job that is equivalent to anything he or she could possibly get back in their home country...why not stay? So exactly how does this criteria automatically make someone a "loser"? |
Metalhead might argue that a guy who lets his wife call the shots about where they live, or who earns more than him, thus making it practical that they stay in Korea, isn't an Alpha male. |
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The Cosmic Hum
Joined: 09 May 2003
Location: Sonic Space
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| Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2015 9:39 pm Post subject: |
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I agree with this. And just to expand on the question a bit. If someone has a strong marriage to a local who wants to stay in Korea and this person has a steady decent job that is equivalent to anything he or she could possibly get back in their home country...why not stay? So exactly how does this criteria automatically make someone a "loser"? |
Metalhead might argue that a guy who lets his wife call the shots about where they live, or who earns more than him, thus making it practical that they stay in Korea, isn't an Alpha male. |
Perhaps not Alpha male, as a true alpha wouldn't have a wife...just a lifetime of beautiful disposable relationships.
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| Well, my opinion would be A, I think anyone who decides to become a lifer in Korea is a loser, not sure about lazy and irrational but definitely unambitious and most likely "unintelligent". |
But the guy you mention certainly denies Metalhead's presumptions.
Any guy who marries a woman who makes more money than he does seems entirely ambitious and at least moderately intelligent enough to recognize a good thing when he finds it. |
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World Traveler
Joined: 29 May 2009
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| Posted: Fri Apr 17, 2015 10:28 pm Post subject: |
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| I read a study which said most women wouldn't want to be married to a man who makes less money than she does. So why would she? Perhaps she mis-assessed his income earnings potential (and/or the amount of money EFL teachers in Korea can make gradually declined over time)? Well, at least she can practice English- the world's lingua franca- for free. That's gotta be worth something. |
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wooden nickels
Joined: 23 May 2010
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Who would an alpha male choose?
Miss Tiffany Anna Dubon Rothschild III.
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Erma Lynn McCoy. nickname *Tator Bug |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired
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| Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2015 6:18 am Post subject: |
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I agree with this. And just to expand on the question a bit. If someone has a strong marriage to a local who wants to stay in Korea and this person has a steady decent job that is equivalent to anything he or she could possibly get back in their home country...why not stay? So exactly how does this criteria automatically make someone a "loser"? |
Metalhead might argue that a guy who lets his wife call the shots about where they live, or who earns more than him, thus making it practical that they stay in Korea, isn't an Alpha male. |
This would only work if non-Alpha male=loser. And that's unworkable as I can think of some Alpha type males (Tyson and Simpson come to mind) who aren't exactly winners (at least today).
Conversely I can think of some Beta type males who are quite successful (at least financially speaking) such as Bill Gates, Warren Buffet...and I'm sure you could add more people to both lists. |
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