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The Cosmic Hum
Joined: 09 May 2003
Location: Sonic Space
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| drcrazy wrote: |
Given I have a BA in French/Spanish, MA in French, MA TESOL, PhD in Foreign and Second Language Education, and 30+ years of teaching from Pre-school to post doctoral students; teaching ESL, EFL, French, Spanish, Language Education, etc., I have thought long and hard about this situation.
Here is what I think: Big hair, why give a flying rip how she does it?  .
Thank you teacher for reading.
I love you, give me A+. |
...oh the dedication to detail and the joy of correct comma usage.
I love you. Give me A+!
Two separate independent clauses.  |
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aq8knyus
Joined: 28 Jul 2010
Location: London
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| Posted: Thu May 14, 2015 3:20 am Post subject: |
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| Steelrails wrote: |
| Who's Your Daddy? wrote: |
It's wrong, but it sounds like one of those situations where only a Korean will be listened to. Foreigners couldn't know:)
[Wife my wife, I'd tell her something, she'd ignore it. Then later, a Korean would tell her the same thing, and she'd be like "do you know x, Mr. Kim told me." And I'd be like, "I told you that months ago."]
And I don't think it has to do with status, a Korean shoe-shiner's opinion would hold more weight that a foreign CEO.
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Oh, I'm here. And just for that I'll give you a this- I've been in a situation where people have ignored broken English advice from Koreans about certain things until I chimed in and made it clear, that YES, they were right. This can range from the mundane like informing people that yes, the Lotte Giants were indeed the visiting team and not the home team, despite having significantly more fans, and no Korea did not "bat backwards with the hometeam going first", to matters of transportation like the AREX and line 9 express, to critical things like whether or not a person was swearing or whether that was weed they smelled. Plenty of foreigners won't listen unless the person speaks fluent, native English or even to the point of having a non-Asian face, which has happened as well. Now, I'm sure someone will counteract with how there is some great difference between when Koreans do it vs. foreigners. Whatever. It's the same.
As for the name and comma thing, basically what Underwaterbob said. If I had to do it all over again, I would have just used a Korean name to save the hassle on all this damn registration crap. I'm currently unable to use my iPIN because somehow the name on my cell phone acct doesn't match my ARC even though it does. |
People from culturally diverse western English speaking nations have usually had more interactions with non-native English speakers than soft mick. Doubly so for people from Europe or Africa.
I doubt they are as dismissive of people with broken English as Koreans are of pretty much every foreigner.
The reason why a Korean is listened to more than a foreigner is probably due to the same reason a Korean witness is listened to more than a foreign witness when a crime is committed in Korea. |
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ThingsComeAround
Joined: 07 Nov 2008
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| Posted: Thu May 14, 2015 9:02 am Post subject: |
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| Who's Your Daddy? wrote: |
It's wrong, but it sounds like one of those situations where only a Korean will be listened to. Foreigners couldn't know:)
[Wife my wife, I'd tell her something, she'd ignore it. Then later, a Korean would tell her the same thing, and she'd be like "do you know x, Mr. Kim told me." And I'd be like, "I told you that months ago."]
And I don't think it has to do with status, a Korean shoe-shiner's opinion would hold more weight that a foreign CEO.
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Yes. Sadly my wife must have picked up the same horrible habits.  |
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Steelrails
Joined: 12 Mar 2009
Location: Earth, Solar System
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| Posted: Thu May 14, 2015 6:02 pm Post subject: |
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| aq8knyus wrote: |
People from culturally diverse western English speaking nations have usually had more interactions with non-native English speakers than soft mick. Doubly so for people from Europe or Africa.
I doubt they are as dismissive of people with broken English as Koreans are of pretty much every foreigner.
The reason why a Korean is listened to more than a foreigner is probably due to the same reason a Korean witness is listened to more than a foreign witness when a crime is committed in Korea. |
Sorry, but that's just not the case. Plenty of westerners do the same thing. Unless they are in some sort of "ethnic" scenario (like learning Karate or how to cook Indian cuisine) there is this tendency to believe people who speak their language over a foreigner.
I've seen it first hand. People not believing or at least doubting what some Korean person told them and then being convinced when a native English speaker told them the same thing.
In many cases this is quite benign as there may be gaps in translation or comprehension that they want clarified. Other times though, there is a clear case of "needing to hear it in English". It does go both ways, whether you want to believe so or not. |
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drcrazy
Joined: 19 Feb 2003
Location: Pusan. Yes, that's right. Pusan NOT Busan. I ain't never been to no place called Busan
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| Posted: Sat May 16, 2015 12:04 am Post subject: |
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| The Cosmic Hum wrote: |
| drcrazy wrote: |
Given I have a BA in French/Spanish, MA in French, MA TESOL, PhD in Foreign and Second Language Education, and 30+ years of teaching from Pre-school to post doctoral students; teaching ESL, EFL, French, Spanish, Language Education, etc., I have thought long and hard about this situation.
Here is what I think: Big hair, why give a flying rip how she does it? .
Thank you teacher for reading.
I love you, give me A+. |
...oh the dedication to detail and the joy of correct comma usage.
I love you. Give me A+!
Two separate independent clauses. |
I love you. Give me a pull. |
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Kwangjuchicken
Joined: 01 Sep 2003
Location: I was abducted by aliens on my way to Korea and forced to be an EFL teacher on this crazy planet.
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| Posted: Sat May 16, 2015 12:09 am Post subject: |
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| drcrazy wrote: |
| The Cosmic Hum wrote: |
| drcrazy wrote: |
Given I have a BA in French/Spanish, MA in French, MA TESOL, PhD in Foreign and Second Language Education, and 30+ years of teaching from Pre-school to post doctoral students; teaching ESL, EFL, French, Spanish, Language Education, etc., I have thought long and hard about this situation.
Here is what I think: Big hair, why give a flying rip how she does it? .
Thank you teacher for reading.
I love you, give me A+. |
...oh the dedication to detail and the joy of correct comma usage.
I love you. Give me A+!
Two separate independent clauses. |
I love you. Give me a pull. |
Or, is it:
I love you. Give me a bull.  I just layed an egg.  |
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