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Being sued for 20 Million KRW!
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EZE



Joined: 05 May 2012

PostPosted: Sat May 23, 2015 8:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

catman wrote:
Unfortunately you should probably just leave the country at this point.


^^This. You stay, you pay.
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Stan Rogers



Joined: 20 Aug 2010

PostPosted: Sun May 24, 2015 1:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

CentralCali wrote:
^Work on the reading comp, Stan. The OP didn't, according to him, get a chance to engage in the dispute. He clearly stated that he did not receive notice of any court matters relating to the counter suit.


I'm sure he was given something. He just didn't know what it was and disregarded it. Ignorance of the law is no excuse, here, there or anywhere. So does this now mean that a Korean bounty hunter is out there looking for this wayg who skipped his court date and hasn't paid up?

I think immigration might grab him on the way out if he tries to leave.
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kingplaya4



Joined: 14 May 2006

PostPosted: Sun May 24, 2015 1:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

For that kind of money, I'd look at alternative means of leaving the country like a fishing boat or something. What's the guy going to do, work at hagwons for four years to pay that off?
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CentralCali



Joined: 17 May 2007

PostPosted: Sun May 24, 2015 2:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stan Rogers wrote:
CentralCali wrote:
^Work on the reading comp, Stan. The OP didn't, according to him, get a chance to engage in the dispute. He clearly stated that he did not receive notice of any court matters relating to the counter suit.


I'm sure he was given something. He just didn't know what it was and disregarded it. Ignorance of the law is no excuse, here, there or anywhere. So does this now mean that a Korean bounty hunter is out there looking for this wayg who skipped his court date and hasn't paid up?

I think immigration might grab him on the way out if he tries to leave.


On the off chance that you don't get banned before reading this, I'm going to respond to you.

Again: read the OP. It's quite evident the OP moved after leaving the school whose boss sued. IMHO, it's also likely that the OP did not complete a change of address form at the appropriate places.

Next: AFAIK, there are no bounty hunters in South Korea. Immigration, of course, does have the responsibility of denying exit to someone who, according to the law, cannot leave the country until paying court ordered fines. Now, that brings up an interesting bit: the OP has not been fined, but has had what's called in America a default judgment declared against him/her. That is not a fine, but rather a determination on a civil matter.

And that's all I have to say to you. Feel free to post a bunch of other trollish posts again, only to create work for the admin/mods on this site to remove them...again.
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Stan Rogers



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PostPosted: Sun May 24, 2015 2:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

CentralCali wrote:
Stan Rogers wrote:
CentralCali wrote:
^Work on the reading comp, Stan. The OP didn't, according to him, get a chance to engage in the dispute. He clearly stated that he did not receive notice of any court matters relating to the counter suit.


I'm sure he was given something. He just didn't know what it was and disregarded it. Ignorance of the law is no excuse, here, there or anywhere. So does this now mean that a Korean bounty hunter is out there looking for this wayg who skipped his court date and hasn't paid up?

I think immigration might grab him on the way out if he tries to leave.


On the off chance that you don't get banned before reading this, I'm going to respond to you.

Again: read the OP. It's quite evident the OP moved after leaving the school whose boss sued. IMHO, it's also likely that the OP did not complete a change of address form at the appropriate places.

Next: AFAIK, there are no bounty hunters in South Korea. Immigration, of course, does have the responsibility of denying exit to someone who, according to the law, cannot leave the country until paying court ordered fines. Now, that brings up an interesting bit: the OP has not been fined, but has had what's called in America a default judgment declared against him/her. That is not a fine, but rather a determination on a civil matter.

And that's all I have to say to you. Feel free to post a bunch of other trollish posts again, only to create work for the admin/mods on this site to remove them...again.


Neither of us really know what happened. Did he fulfill his legal obligation to change his address? Did he just throw away a summons that given to him? We can only go by what the OP said. I was just filling in a blank with an equally likely action on his part.

That said, I just find it hard to believe that the OP was secretly tired and convicted without being summoned or notified. His story smells fishy to me.

Korea does offer bounties for criminals. You can go see for yourself at the post office, so it's safe to assume there would be bounty hunters in Korea. That's not being trollish. Immigration detaining foreigners at the airport for being in trouble with the law is also a fact. That's not being trollish either and certainly not worthy of being banned.

No need for swearing or name calling. It's childish. Please keep the discussion civil.
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Stan Rogers



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PostPosted: Sun May 24, 2015 3:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The OP's title is misleading. He is no longer being sued. It should say 20 million won judgment levied against me.
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Chaparrastique



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PostPosted: Sun May 24, 2015 5:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stan Rogers wrote:
Immigration detaining foreigners at the airport for being in trouble with the law is also a fact.


Maybe for a criminal conviction, but... a civil judgment?
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EZE



Joined: 05 May 2012

PostPosted: Sun May 24, 2015 8:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chaparrastique wrote:
Stan Rogers wrote:
Immigration detaining foreigners at the airport for being in trouble with the law is also a fact.


Maybe for a criminal conviction, but... a civil judgment?


I get detained at Incheon International Airport when I travel through there, because my former boss at Wonderland says I didn't pay into unemployment insurance.

As for the court order being sent to the wrong address, it seems like this is possibly a strategy used by Korean courts in Korean versus foreigner disputes. Read the May 25, 2010 entry of this blog: http://bringthekidshome.org/alejandros-blog
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ghostrider



Joined: 27 Jun 2011

PostPosted: Sun May 24, 2015 8:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe if you sleep with your former boss you can make all your problems go away.


"I was told to come to the Immigration Office the following day with my boss. I didn’t understand the conversation that took place as it happened in Korean, but the message was passed on to me later that day through my Korean roommate who excitedly told me that I wasn’t being deported. 'That’s great,' I said, relieved. Then she informed me of the 'small condition' that had to be met to keep me from being deported. I had to sleep with my much older Korean boss who was so short he barely came to my shoulder. If I slept with him, my visa problems would simply disappear. If I didn’t sleep with him, then my visa issues couldn’t be sorted out, I would be deported immediately, but would first have to pay a large fine. I was outraged at the corruption (it turned out he had friends in the Immigration office)."
http://monkeysandmountains.com/getting-deported
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TheMeerkatLover



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PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2015 3:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I suspect there are a great number of facts and details the OP is purposely omitting.
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Skippy



Joined: 18 Jan 2003
Location: Daejeon

PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2015 3:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was really curious on who this was. I was able to find the actual person on Facebook. The guy has made a life here. I think leaving would be very hard for him. My question is how did things get so out of hand. What advice did he get and from who?
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TheUrbanMyth



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired

PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2015 3:54 am    Post subject: Re: Being sued for 20 Million KRW! Reply with quote

caulds989 wrote:
I am an English teacher in Seoul, and I desperately need some help.

This goes way way way back. The short story is my ex-employer released me from my contract about 3 months in. I left the school, went to work for a new school, but right after I left, she illegally garnished my wages that were due. I sued for the damages (about 2 million) and she told me if I didn't drop the lawsuit, she'd counter sue for 20 million. I didn't drop the law suit thinking she was bluffing and that the guy helping me said she had no case...
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Was "the guy helping you" an actual Korean lawyer or just a layman buddy?

If the latter then it might be advisable at this point to get a lawyer and see what your options are. If the guy WAS a lawyer it might be also advisable to get a new one as this guy doesn't seem to be all that good.
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TheUrbanMyth



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2015 4:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

CentralCali wrote:
[Next: AFAIK, there are no bounty hunters in South Korea. .



Yes there ARE "bounty hunters" in South Korea

Yes they are not exactly the kind of bounty hunter that you see in the States

http://marginalrevolution.com/marginalrevolution/2011/09/bounty-hunters-in-korea.html


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The outsourcing of law enforcement has also been something of a boon for local governments. They say that they can save money on hiring officers, and that the fines imposed on offenders generally outstrip the rewards paid to informers. (The reward for reporting illegal garbage dumping: about $40. The fine: about 10 times as much.) For most infractions, rewards can range from as little as about $5 (reporting a cigarette tosser) to as much as $850 (turning in an unlicensed seller of livestock). But there are possibilities for windfalls. Seoul’s city government promises up to $1.7 million for reports of major corruption involving its own staff members. -


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Plain Meaning



Joined: 18 Oct 2014

PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2015 4:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Find a Korean-qualified lawyer.

Shop around if you're worried about the retainer.
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CentralCali



Joined: 17 May 2007

PostPosted: Wed May 27, 2015 4:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheUrbanMyth wrote:
CentralCali wrote:
[Next: AFAIK, there are no bounty hunters in South Korea. .



Yes there ARE "bounty hunters" in South Korea

Yes they are not exactly the kind of bounty hunter that you see in the States


Yeah, that's definitely not what we mean in the US by bounty hunter. What's described in your link is more a tip/reward line.
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