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Swartz
Joined: 19 Dec 2014
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 Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2015 8:23 pm Post subject: |
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The media covers up black criminality. It also creates false narratives that blame whites for black dysfunction. That’s the subject of this thread, Leon. |
So you wanted to get into the false narrative game as well? |
Sure, bud. There’s something familiar about the style of these pithy comments and the way you unravel when you get worked up. Seems oddly similar to that fellow northway. Huh. Probably just a coincidence. |
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sirius black
Joined: 04 Jun 2010
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| Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2015 11:36 pm Post subject: |
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There are a lot of things the FBI and/or the media sits on. Its obvious why they do it. For example, joining law enforcement has been one of the strategies used by supremacist groups and the FBI has a report on it and the main media has avoided it. Its a powder keg issue. There are other things as well.
Seems like Trump is doubling down on the fringe right and putting out racist information and things to incite racism. The fact that his base ignores it tells you all you need to know and some people wonder why the Democrats carry the vast majority of Asians, Latinos and Blacks. Duh...lol.
As for crime stats, the one fact that is never part of the meme and is historically a truism since time ad infinitum is that violent crime is a function of poverty. Always has and is no different today. 150 years ago, hundreds and sometimes thousans of Irish, Italians, Jewish and other ethnic street gangs controlled whole areas and roamed the streets. The police had no say in many of these areas whatsoever. Why? They are marginalized and could not work. In NYC, hundreds of European women and girls sold themselves on street corners. Sometimes boys. This doesn't make the history books.
In the '50s, 60s and '70s Puerto Ricans in NYC, Blacks as well.
All these groups were/are marginalized. There are two constant stats that are pervasive in prisons across all ethnic and racial groups. its very common for them to be from broken or abusive home life and under educated. Doesn't matter if they are black, white, asian or latino.
Also, what is not being reported is that the crime stats are at 20 year lows. Chicago is picked up by the right wing because there is not much out there to point a finger to and even Chicago's crime stat is misleading. They talk of 4 or 5 hundred homocides a year but in the late 90s it was 7 to 900.
Middle class blacks simply do not commit crime anywhere close to the rate that poor blacks do and that is not suprising at all.
Law enforcement these days are a revenue source. The police are evaluated and arrests and tickets written and there are unofficial quotas across the country. They target the most vulnerable, typically poor blacks. There are many reports of overpolicing and Ferguson is no different. |
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Leon
Joined: 31 May 2010
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| Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2015 4:43 am Post subject: |
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| Swartz wrote: |
| Leon wrote: |
| Swartz wrote: |
The media covers up black criminality. It also creates false narratives that blame whites for black dysfunction. That’s the subject of this thread, Leon. |
So you wanted to get into the false narrative game as well? |
Sure, bud. There’s something familiar about the style of these pithy comments and the way you unravel when you get worked up. Seems oddly similar to that fellow northway. Huh. Probably just a coincidence. |
Yes, probably. |
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trueblue
Joined: 15 Jun 2014
Location: In between the lines
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| Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2015 6:04 am Post subject: |
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| Leon wrote: |
| Swartz wrote: |
| Leon wrote: |
| Swartz wrote: |
The media covers up black criminality. It also creates false narratives that blame whites for black dysfunction. That’s the subject of this thread, Leon. |
So you wanted to get into the false narrative game as well? |
Sure, bud. There’s something familiar about the style of these pithy comments and the way you unravel when you get worked up. Seems oddly similar to that fellow northway. Huh. Probably just a coincidence. |
Yes, probably. |
Ahhh...makes sense. |
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Leon
Joined: 31 May 2010
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| Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2015 10:19 am Post subject: |
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| trueblue wrote: |
| Leon wrote: |
| Swartz wrote: |
| Leon wrote: |
| Swartz wrote: |
The media covers up black criminality. It also creates false narratives that blame whites for black dysfunction. That’s the subject of this thread, Leon. |
So you wanted to get into the false narrative game as well? |
Sure, bud. There’s something familiar about the style of these pithy comments and the way you unravel when you get worked up. Seems oddly similar to that fellow northway. Huh. Probably just a coincidence. |
Yes, probably. |
Ahhh...makes sense. |
What good sleuthing you two have done, about as accurate as the rest of your analysis Trueblue, interpret that as you wish. |
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Plain Meaning
Joined: 18 Oct 2014
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| Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2015 9:22 pm Post subject: |
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Trump's Racist Propaganda
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| The graphic in Trump’s tweet says that 97 percent of black murder victims are killed by other black people. According to the most recent FBI data, from the bureau’s 2014 report, 90 percent of black victims were murdered by other black people. The graphic also falsely implies that 81 percent of white murder victims are killed by black people. The 2014 report, in contrast, says that only 15 percent of white murder victims were killed by black people, while 82 percent were killed by white people. The reality is that the vast majority of black victims are killed by black people, just as the vast majority of white victims are killed by white people. |
So Trump claimed 82% of white murder victims were killed by black people, when in fact 15% of white murder victims were killed by black people.
That is not a math error. It is a vicious, hateful lie.
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Trump’s dissemination of white supremacist propaganda on crime reflects a longstanding tradition of politicians and law enforcement painting young black people as violent threats wreaking havoc across the country.
Twenty-five years ago, during the height of gruesome drug war rhetoric, the term “superpredator” was introduced to frighten Americans and provide rationale for harsher sentencing and, ultimately, the construction of the carceral state. In 1996, Hillary Clinton, now the leading Democratic candidate, called children in street organizations superpredators, adding that such youth gangsters have “no conscience, no empathy. We can talk about why they ended up that way, but first we have to bring them to heel.”
This sensationalist, sinister portrayal continues to permeate law enforcement. Darren Wilson, the white police officer who killed Michael Brown, described Brown as demon-like. “When I grabbed him,” Wilson said, “the only way I can describe it is I felt like a 5-year-old holding onto Hulk Hogan.” A law enforcement official in Cleveland thought Tamir Rice — the 12-year-old black boy killed by a white police officer one year ago this week — was a 20-year-old man. “It’s not uncommon,” Vox’s German Lopez wrote, “for police to overestimate the age and size of black boys. Various studies have found that the general public and police tend to see them as less innocent and older.” |
These lies have consequences. Of course, there are no reliable statistics on how many shooting victims there are of police officers. If there were, I think we might understand how its not as simple as saying it is black people who pose the major threat. |
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