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Zed
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We actually worked with "girl" for a while. I demonstrated that the transition between R and L could be made by moving the tongue forward from the R position to achieve the L sound. I had them go back and forth with this so they could feel the difference in position.
They asked me to describe the position of my mouth when making the Zh sound (television, garage, Asia). I wasn't able to describe it to them. |
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Zed
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| Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2004 12:46 am Post subject: |
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Have you tried teaching the distinction between light "l" and dark "l"?
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No. I'm not sure what it is. |
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prosodic
Joined: 21 Jun 2004
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| Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2004 4:56 am Post subject: |
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Have you tried teaching the distinction between light "l" and dark "l"?
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No. I'm not sure what it is. |
With light "l", the tip of the tongue actually touches the back of the top teeth.
With dark "l", the tip of the tongue is farther back along the soft palate.
Word with light "l": Wall
Word with dark "l": Well
Depending on where you're from, whether you're male or female, and how old you are, you might not have dark "l". It's been slowly disappearing from some dialects of English over the past few decades. |
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prosodic
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| Posted: Tue Jul 13, 2004 4:58 am Post subject: |
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| By the way, the Korean "l" sound is a hyper light "l". The tip of the tongue goes farther forward than for the English light "l" and the tongue flattens out a little bit. Knowing that might be helpful. |
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OiGirl
Joined: 23 Jan 2003
Location: Hoke-y-gun
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| Posted: Sun Aug 01, 2004 2:53 pm Post subject: |
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Are these "real teachers" or housewives who got a part-time job pushing English?
The ideas given sound wonderful for a teacher-trainging program...but would they help these teachers to be sucessful in the eyes of their students' parents and their boss? |
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ladyandthetramp
Joined: 21 Nov 2003
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| Posted: Sun Aug 01, 2004 5:02 pm Post subject: |
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| prosodic wrote: |
| Zed wrote: |
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Have you tried teaching the distinction between light "l" and dark "l"?
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No. I'm not sure what it is. |
With light "l", the tip of the tongue actually touches the back of the top teeth.
With dark "l", the tip of the tongue is farther back along the soft palate.
Word with light "l": Wall
Word with dark "l": Well
Depending on where you're from, whether you're male or female, and how old you are, you might not have dark "l". It's been slowly disappearing from some dialects of English over the past few decades. |
Another good example of light "l" and dark "l" is the word "little." The first "l" is light, and the second "l" is dark. |
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