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denverdeath
Joined: 21 May 2005
Location: Boo-sahn
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Argh! SO much crap to sift through on the internet.
Most of the sites say a bachelor's. One stated, "At least a bachelor's minimum for a UK citizen". What the hey does THAT mean???
Get your degree notarized. Try to get the apostille at your embassy. If they turn you away, ttompatz was right [which he almost(?) always is]. |
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tootiefrootie
Joined: 23 Dec 2010
Location: Seoul
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No offense but why on earth did you opt for an MA without doing your BA first??? Without a BA, your MA is pretty much useless over here.
Also I have to ask, where did you do your MA? At Sussex? I've worked at British unis for nearly three years and I've never met a postgrad student without a BA. Didn't you find it a huge challenge? I studied English Lit for 4 years and then did my MA in applied linguistics and even I found it heavy going. It's quite a step up in terms of research and workload for most people. You're much better off completing your BA in Linguistics or Education or anything really. |
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MDSloth
Joined: 09 Jan 2017
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I'm curious as to how you acquired experience teaching abroad without a BA, though. Bully for you if you did, just curious. |
Haha thanks had to look up what bully for you meant 
It was mainly being in the right place at the right time, in China that usually works out also having a UK passport It wan't too hard getting a job in Europe either. |
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MDSloth
Joined: 09 Jan 2017
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| tootiefrootie wrote: |
No offense but why on earth did you opt for an MA without doing your BA first??? Without a BA, your MA is pretty much useless over here.
Also I have to ask, where did you do your MA? At Sussex? I've worked at British unis for nearly three years and I've never met a postgrad student without a BA. Didn't you find it a huge challenge? I studied English Lit for 4 years and then did my MA in applied linguistics and even I found it heavy going. It's quite a step up in terms of research and workload for most people. You're much better off completing your BA in Linguistics or Education or anything really. |
Why? because a 1 year MA is cheaper than a 3 year BA, 3 years of your life is also a long time to spend in one aera along with alot of debt to accrue.
I know of at least 3 people who have gotten an MA in applied ling/ TEFL without a BA all 1 around 40 and the other 2 in their twenties. 3 years working in a uni and not hearing about it I'm not that suprised it's still relatively uncommon
It really wasn't that that difficult, the only thing that brought me down from a distinction to a merit was minor referencing mistakes. If you've kept up with your reading and focus your modules on TEFL instead of things like universal grammar then it's really not that difficult. I'd personally recommend the MA over the BA because firstly MA > BA also it's cheaper and takes less time. |
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MDSloth
Joined: 09 Jan 2017
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| denverdeath wrote: |
Argh! SO much crap to sift through on the internet.
Most of the sites say a bachelor's. One stated, "At least a bachelor's minimum for a UK citizen". What the hey does THAT mean???
Get your degree notarized. Try to get the apostille at your embassy. If they turn you away, ttompatz was right [which he almost(?) always is]. |
Cheers man, will do.
If you're really that interested in wether a bachelors is required or not, send a few applications off and see what responses you get Sussex, Reading, Portsmouth and UCL all gave me offers when I was looking |
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Otus
Joined: 09 Feb 2006
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Things are getting quite bizarre with this these days. I needed to meet a GPA requirement from my undergrad (B.A.) in order to be accepted for an M.A. course. I guess the next step will be somehow getting a PhD without a Bachelor's or Master's Degree. (Getting a B.A. with honors used to sometimes allow you to skip the Master.s).
Is there any other field outside of ESL in which this can be legitimately done? |
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MDSloth
Joined: 09 Jan 2017
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| Otus wrote: |
Things are getting quite bizarre with this these days. I needed to meet a GPA requirement from my undergrad (B.A.) in order to be accepted for an M.A. course. I guess the next step will be somehow getting a PhD without a Bachelor's or Master's Degree. (Getting a B.A. with honors used to sometimes allow you to skip the Master.s).
Is there any other field outside of ESL in which this can be legitimately done? |
I think most fields aslong as you either
A.Get a very high mark in your Bachelors (i.e a high first)
B. Have working experience in the field
I know a microbiogist that skipped the Msc after working a few years making pharmaceuticals
A few friends of mine studying neuroscience got scholarships to study for their Phds in Amsterdam after getting a first in their bachelors.
This is talking about England/ Europe though, so I guess it's different if you're applying to American unis. Try applying to unis in Europe if in the US you don't have much luck |
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PRagic
Joined: 24 Feb 2006
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Anyone can apply to a Doctoral program after having completed their BA, it's just that most people don't know it. In fact, I often recommend that route to our undergrad students.
Why? Because if you get in, it'll put you in line for funding faster. Many international students get stuck with paying tuition out of pocked for a semester or two in N. America.
It is commonly accepted, however, that the MA will be granted along the way to the completion of the Ph.D. You'll still be on the hook for a LOT of credits in the N. American system. This is why you'll often see people with both the MA and the Ph.D. from the same granting institution.
We've sent a few students over to Europe to complete their Doctorates, but they already had their MAs under their belts. It was a financial decision for most; free tuition and research funding trumps a lot of other consideration. |
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