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Kiki81
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| Re-reading your contract should show you that your employer isn't violating the contract. Now, they may be working you like a dog, but they haven't violated any labor law apparently. What you seem to have is a contract dispute. Labor Board doesn't get involved with those. They will consult with you because you arranged a consultation appointment. That does not mean you are in the right, legally speaking. |
No, the Labor Board wouldn't have an appointment with me if I didn't have a reasonable case. My case had to be sent through another agency and then when it was determined reasonable it was sent to the Labor office in my district.
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| And if the Labor Board tells you that you have no case, they will not waste their time pursuing it, and enjoy your life? What will you do then? |
Answer me this, how can I enjoy my life when my hagwon is exploiting me and working me like a dog?
Also, they would've told me I had no case from the beginning. I gave them all documentation already.
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| Double check that contract. Those classes may be there, but "disguised" as additional duties as the employer may direct related to teaching English. |
It specifically says that I only work elementary and middle school in my contract. Also I have emails from the hagwon boss telling me I would only work at the hagwon teaching elementary and middle school.
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| They can say it and their word will trump yours. It doesn't matter if you have a Korean boyfriend, Korean girlfriend, Korean spouse, or Korean parent. All that matters is that the employer just has to say that they got complaint calls or complaints in person--not E-mail complaints, not written complaints of any kind. And that will make it look like you were "damaging the business" of your employer. |
Nope, for me to be "fired" it needs to be documented proof. Where are you getting your info? Because that's not correct.
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Now if you decide to go to court, do you have the funds handy to spend on such litigation? Have you considered the cost of lawyers vs. the amount of money you believe you should be gaining in a suit? Lawyers and court costs in Korea can be expensive. And the employer will not be taking that case up at the Labor Board; they will take it up in court, suing you for damaging their business. The employer has the funds and knows they will likely win.
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I'm not taking them to court, it's the Labor Board. They will pursue them. I don't think you know what you're talking about. Really what law is there that says the hagwon can sue me if I go to the Labor Board? The employer has no say in whether they want to be pursued by the LB or not. That's ridiculous.
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| Nobody said it was the end of the world. But it is the end of your ESL career in Korea for the time being when you don't have a case. |
No, it won't be the end of my career in Korea. I'm not afraid of that at all. What makes you think it'll be the end of my career in Korea?
And by the way, I do have a case. I have case(s) to be precise.
I think you actually like seeing bad hagwons screw their teachers with bad contracts. otherwise you wouldn't defend them like this.
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CentralCali is right on this^
Lick your wounds and move on. You won't be winning this battle. |
I'm not worried. And I'm not giving up. |
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CentralCali
Joined: 17 May 2007
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| Posted: Mon Jun 12, 2017 9:55 am Post subject: |
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| Re-reading your contract should show you that your employer isn't violating the contract. Now, they may be working you like a dog, but they haven't violated any labor law apparently. What you seem to have is a contract dispute. Labor Board doesn't get involved with those. They will consult with you because you arranged a consultation appointment. That does not mean you are in the right, legally speaking. |
No, the Labor Board wouldn't have an appointment with me if I didn't have a reasonable case. My case had to be sent through another agency and then when it was determined reasonable it was sent to the Labor office in my district. |
Wrong. Labor Board disputes are to be filed at the local office initially. Also anyone can make an appointment; you can even go there without an appointment (if you don't mind waiting around). Validity of your claim has exactly zero to do with having an appointment.
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| And if the Labor Board tells you that you have no case, they will not waste their time pursuing it, and enjoy your life? What will you do then? |
Answer me this, how can I enjoy my life when my hagwon is exploiting me and working me like a dog? |
I'm reminded of an anecdote I saw years ago in Reader's Digest. During the Vietnam war, a military police company with working dogs was undermanned. So, of course, the commanding officer ordered the MPs to go on extra shifts. As fate would have it, that same MP company soon was short on working dogs. When the First Sergeant informed the CO of that fact, the CO suggested putting the dogs on extra shifts. The 1SG said, "Sir, you can work a man like a dog, but you cannot work a dog like a man."
How are they exploiting you? Apparently you're not being asked to do anything beyond the terms of your contract. You're unhappy with those terms now? Attempt to negotiate a new contract. That actually is the exact same advice that you would get back in the United States if the contract does not contravene labor law.
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| Also, they would've told me I had no case from the beginning. I gave them all documentation already. |
Again, wrong. Just like anywhere else, they are required to examine what's presented to them and to interview the complainant. The local LB is where the interview happens because that is the place where you are required to file your dispute in the first place.
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| Double check that contract. Those classes may be there, but "disguised" as additional duties as the employer may direct related to teaching English. |
It specifically says that I only work elementary and middle school in my contract. Also I have emails from the hagwon boss telling me I would only work at the hagwon teaching elementary and middle school. |
Just for fun, post the entire contract here, but be sure to leave out identifying information (both yours and the hagweon's). Those contracts aren't pulled out of the blue and the bosses aren't as clueless as too many foreigners think they are. The bosses and owners get training in how to run their school and the contracts are templates from their chain.
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| They can say it and their word will trump yours. It doesn't matter if you have a Korean boyfriend, Korean girlfriend, Korean spouse, or Korean parent. All that matters is that the employer just has to say that they got complaint calls or complaints in person--not E-mail complaints, not written complaints of any kind. And that will make it look like you were "damaging the business" of your employer. |
Nope, for me to be "fired" it needs to be documented proof. Where are you getting your info? Because that's not correct. |
Ah, the naivete of youth! You can be fired outright for almost any reason after six months (certain exceptions, of course, apply). Prior to the six month mark, you can be fired for absolutely no reason and you have no recourse. The boss's constraint is that he or she is to give you either 30 days notice or 30 days pay in lieu. Another constraint is that firing during the final month of a contract is indicative of unfair termination to avoid paying contract completion bonuses.
And it most certainly is correct that your boss can sue you for damaging the business. "The truth is a defense against libel and slander" is not the case in Korea. The law specifically says it is not the case. At the risk of repeating what another person posted: you are not in the United States now; different laws apply.
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Now if you decide to go to court, do you have the funds handy to spend on such litigation? Have you considered the cost of lawyers vs. the amount of money you believe you should be gaining in a suit? Lawyers and court costs in Korea can be expensive. And the employer will not be taking that case up at the Labor Board; they will take it up in court, suing you for damaging their business. The employer has the funds and knows they will likely win.
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I'm not taking them to court, it's the Labor Board. |
Last I heard, the LB doesn't take anyone to court. The LB makes a determination. If it happens to be in your favor, then it's up to you to get the boss to comply. If the boss is recalcitrant, then you, not the LB, take the boss to court using the LB decision as your basis.
Anecdote time! I've a Korean friend who, a few years ago, informed her hagweon boss that she would not be re-contracting. The boss's response was to not pay the salary for the last two months nor the severance pay. My friend spent almost three months going through the LB process. The boss lost the case and, luckily for my friend, did pay the money owed. Do you have that kind of time on your hands?
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| They will pursue them. I don't think you know what you're talking about. Really what law is there that says the hagwon can sue me if I go to the Labor Board? The employer has no say in whether they want to be pursued by the LB or not. That's ridiculous. |
What law? There's a law in Korea against slander/libel. It is different than the law in the United States. There is also a law against "damaging business". It does not matter what you think is true. It does not matter what case you think you have. All that matters is that your boss only has to claim that your actions, as evidenced by verbal complaints from parents of students, damaged the business. Hey, if you're lucky, the boss might even stipulate that you are correct! And then turn around and sue you for far more than what the boss owes you.
I certainly do know what I'm talking about, and ttompatz knows what he's talking about. Together, I think we have about 50 years experience with South Korea, but I won't swear to that.
Oh, and if you run to the LB in the middle or, worse yet, near the beginning of your contract, for something you should've paid attention to before signing said contract or for something you should try negotiating with your boss, well, you're just going to get fired. Remember the six month rule.
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| Nobody said it was the end of the world. But it is the end of your ESL career in Korea for the time being when you don't have a case. |
No, it won't be the end of my career in Korea. I'm not afraid of that at all. What makes you think it'll be the end of my career in Korea? |
Did you not see the words "for the time being" in my post? I have time; go look up the expression. Again, nobody said it's the end of your career. It's the end of teaching in Korea for the time being.
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| And by the way, I do have a case. I have case(s) to be precise. |
Apparently, given what you've posted here, you don't. But, hey, you could be correct on having a case. Post your contract and let's see.
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| I think you actually like seeing bad hagwons screw their teachers with bad contracts. otherwise you wouldn't defend them like this. |
I think you're desperately in search of having things your way. Anyone at all who's seen my posts on this site knows that I am the last person to defend bad hagweon owners. Your comment is simply foolish. The only people who get screwed by bad contracts I don't defend are those who sign up with Wonderland or CDI (go ahead; ask why). Speaking of which, is your hagweon part of either of those chains?
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CentralCali is right on this^
Lick your wounds and move on. You won't be winning this battle. |
I'm not worried. And I'm not giving up. |
In 2006, a lawyer in Incheon cost approximately US$300 per hour. That did not include the fee for the translator. Now consider that was eleven years ago and inflation probably hit them over the last decade too. I ask you again: do you have the funds to cover a court case?
Three different people with long experience in Korea have tried to explain something to you. You are lashing out at them. Your ire is misdirected. |
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Kiki81
Joined: 06 Mar 2017
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| Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 6:56 am Post subject: |
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| Three different people with long experience in Korea have tried to explain something to you. You are lashing out at them. Your ire is misdirected. |
Long experience in Korea still doesn't make you Korean. Bad hagwons are not above the law and I'm not worried. If Korea can force a president to step down, and imprison chaebol bosses, then I think making one nasty hagwon behave isn't hard.
I'm not lashing out. You're the ones lashing out. I'm being blamed by bullies who are trying to make it seem like I have no other choice but to accept this awful hagwon for what ever reason. I think you have some ulterior motive to try to get me from punishing my bad hagwon, why I don't know. So far you've told me my case would just be thrown out by the LB because I have none, that I am powerless and stupid because I was tricked by an exploitative and sketchy contract, and that if I did try to do anything against my bad hagwon I would never have a career in Korea again or the court costs would be more than it's worth. So far you've only been using bullying and scare tactics on me and it's not working.
This is what you've told me so far, and you think I'm lashing out???
And I'm not posting my contract, do you really think I'd post personal info on the internet?
I didn't even bother reading the rest of your post. Your opinions mean nothing to me because I've already consulted with people who know more about this than you do. I'll update after I hear from the Labor board. It's pointless for you to argue about these things when you know very little of my case. (I obviously omitted some things that are more sensitive). |
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CentralCali
Joined: 17 May 2007
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| Your reading comprehension is incredibly bad. |
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SeoulNate
Joined: 04 Jun 2010
Location: Hyehwa
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CentralCali is spot on. I've seen this situation many times in my years in Korea, best you can hope for is some contract renegotiation, in fact, it is most likely what the LB will suggest. In no way shape or form will this go to court.
In contract renegotiation, you are not going to get out of teaching the kindergarten classes, but you may be able to get a few extra hundred a month since it needed to be added to the contract. Or, in more likelihood, they fire you for making a fuss. |
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CentralCali
Joined: 17 May 2007
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CentralCali
Joined: 17 May 2007
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| Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 10:08 pm Post subject: |
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| Three different people with long experience in Korea have tried to explain something to you. You are lashing out at them. Your ire is misdirected. |
Long experience in Korea still doesn't make you Korean. Bad hagwons are not above the law and I'm not worried. If Korea can force a president to step down, and imprison chaebol bosses, then I think making one nasty hagwon behave isn't hard. |
You're not Korean either, apparently, and whether you are Korean or I am Korean has nothing to do with this. Nobody's above the law and nobody said anyone is. What those of us with actual experience in this field in Korea have said is that what you have posted does not support what you want to happen. We have also explained to you that it is time-consuming and expensive to get what you want to happen. I even provided an example of a Korean, living in Korea, who had to spend months to get satisfaction. By the way, those chaebol bosses and President Park were in the news and that's why their cases happened as fast as they did. Do you seriously think one unhappy foreigner who did not bother to read a contract is newsworthy?
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| I'm not lashing out. You're the ones lashing out. |
Actually, we're not. On the other hand, you are projecting.
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| I'm being blamed by bullies who are trying to make it seem like I have no other choice but to accept this awful hagwon for what ever reason. |
You were advised to accept the fact that, as it appears from your posts, your employer is violating neither the terms of your contract nor labor law. Those E-mails you mentioned are meaningless; they are not part of the contract.
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| I think you have some ulterior motive to try to get me from punishing my bad hagwon, why I don't know. |
I have no ulterior motive. This site is a place for ESL teachers to help and advise others. That's my motive. You, obviously, refuse to listen to those with actual experience in this field in Korea, so you're not the one I'm now attempting to help. I'm trying to help other people from falling into the situation in which you have found yourself.
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| So far you've told me my case would just be thrown out by the LB because I have none, |
Apparently you don't have a case. Also, I asked you what is your plan if the labor board tells you that you have no case?
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| that I am powerless and stupid because I was tricked by an exploitative and sketchy contract, |
The last time I used the word stupid on this site was March 6, 2017, referring to two foreigners who stole a car. If you don't happen to be one of those two people, I did not call you stupid, and certainly not in this thread.
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| and that if I did try to do anything against my bad hagwon I would never have a career in Korea again |
Your reading comprehension is incredibly bad. Let me explain something to you in big letters: I said FOR THE TIME BEING. Got it? That does not mean never.
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| or the court costs would be more than it's worth. |
Court costs will most likely be more than what you think the boss owes you. What does the boss owe you, anyway? You have not been asked, according to the information you posted yourself, to work more than what's in your contract. Has the boss withheld salary? Evidently not, or you should have mentioned that.
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| So far you've only been using bullying and scare tactics on me and it's not working. |
What bullying? What scare tactics? And, again, what ulterior motive?
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| This is what you've told me so far, and you think I'm lashing out??? |
Well, I have proven that I did not tell you what you believe I did, so, yeah, you're lashing out. Desperate people tend to do that, it seems.
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| And I'm not posting my contract, do you really think I'd post personal info on the internet? |
Wow. Your reading comprehension really is horrendous. One more time, and in big letters, here's what I suggested (bolding and underlining added just now): Just for fun, post the entire contract here, but be sure to leave out identifying information (both yours and the hagweon's)
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| I didn't even bother reading the rest of your post. |
What rest of the post? The bit I posted about you lashing out and having misdirected ire were the last two sentences of that post.
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| Your opinions mean nothing to me because I've already consulted with people who know more about this than you do. |
Apparently, you've consulted with people who have told you what you want to hear. You seem to be confused as to where you must file an initial labor board case. Those you've been consulting certainly are unreliable if they cannot even get that correct.
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| I'll update after I hear from the Labor board. It's pointless for you to argue about these things when you know very little of my case. (I obviously omitted some things that are more sensitive). |
Your situation, as SeoulNate said, has popped up many times in Korea. Here's your situation, in a nutshell:
- Did not read the contract
- Thought correspondence not part of the contract applies to the contract
- Made decision to take contract based on something unrelated to contract
- Paid according to the contract
- Asked to work up to the contracted hours
- Unhappy with the pay
- Took a confrontational stance with employer (who, mind you, is not asking for anything beyond the contract)
- Think conflict resolution in Korea is similar or identical to that in your home state
What did I leave out?
Oh, here's why I don't defend those who sign up nowadays with Wonderland or CDI: They are both notoriously bad chains. CDI even lost a major class action suit. That suit took years to come to conclusion.
ttompatz is the most knowledgeable person, outside of a practicing lawyer in Korea, about Korea's labor law and dispute resolution. He may even be more knowledgeable than a large portion of those practicing in the field. Your comment to him shows that you simply are not listening to good advice. Once again: this post is not for you. My posts in this thread are to help others from falling into a situation like yours. |
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ttompatz
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Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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Here's what is going to happen.
If the contract is in violation of labor law then they will require that the contract be corrected to conform to labor law.
IF the employer is in violation of labor law (and it doesn't sound like they are) then the labor board will levy a fine or in a worst case, a criminal case.
IF there are other matters outside of labor law the labor board won't touch it (NPS, NHIC, taxes, etc).
The labor board will NOT release an employee unless there is a clear violation of labor law (ie: not paying wages).
IF the employee is not released then they are stuck without a job or a visa or the ability to be re-employed for the remainder of their ARC.
There is NO chance of a tribunal making the employer pay any extra to the employee other than legally earned and unpaid wages. They will NOT award punitive damages to the employee. This is not the LSA (Litigious States of America).
The OP would also be unlikely to win in a civil action either but they are more than entitled to overpay some lawyer to discover that fact for themselves, firsthand.
But hey, what do I know. I'm still new to all of this.
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CentralCali
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| I forgot something. Thank you to both tophatcat and SeoulNate. And, of course, many thanks to ttompatz for the information he's posted here over the years. |
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| I would just like to add, that the probationary period for contract workers is 3 months not 6 months. |
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Kiki81
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Didn't even bother to read the previous posts because I just got back from my meeting with the LB.
I have to say. I am pleased with the results, even if it's not exactly what I wanted.
The important thing is timing. My contract ends in 2 months. I was given three options. First, the inspector would have a meeting with my hagwon boss about my grievances. This would be very damaging for my boss, but it could also be for me, because for my two last months they would try to make my life there miserable (they've already tried this before when they were trying to force me to resign). Also they could make up reasons to fire me before my contract ends so they wouldn't have to pay me severance pay. Second option, the inspector could call my hagwon boss anonymously. But this wouldn't be good for me because they would know it was me making the complaint and hence what would happen in the first option would happen here as well. Third option, I finish my contract (in two months) then I go to the LB and sue the hagwon. This is the best option for me, even the inspector agreed so.
So after I finish my contract and collect my severance pay, I will go to the LB and sue my hagwon. The only thing is I can't sue them for the kindie classes. What the LB will do is sue the hagwon for not giving me breaks. I only have 5 minute breaks in between classes and for 8 hrs of work a day, the hagwon owes me another 25 min break each day. So, the LB will sue my hagwon for that. So, they will owe me 25 minutes a day for 6 months. It won't be that much money, not that little either, but I'll be happy just to stick it to them. Also, we had to work Labor Day and we didn't get time and a half, so they will have to pay me that too.
Also, what I'm very pleased with is that when I file the claim after I finish my contract. The LB will fine the hagwon for writing a bad contract. I'm happy with this because from the beginning this was my main grievance. I'm so happy that bad hagwons are forced to pay for offering their foreign teachers bad contracts. And in the future, this will help foreign teachers, at least at this hagwon.
One more thing. The LB can only fine the hagwon, not sue them for the kindie classes for compensation for me. I can get a lawyer and sue the hagwon for these wages after though. Right now I'm considering this. Lawyer fees can be expensive but it might be worth it. Considering I've worked 5 classes a week for 6 months if I finish my contract, and considering the going rate for one 40 minute class.... actually getting a lawyer might be worth it. But right now I'm just thinking about it. It's a nice thought atm ^^
Lastly, I want to say that my experience at the Labor Board was a good one. The inspector was very knowledgeable and sympathetic and she really did all she could for me. She didn't throw my case out, or laugh at me, or disregard me because I was a foreigner. I would like anyone in my position not to hesitate to go to the LB for grievances against bad hagwons or schools. You do have rights, you're not powerless. You have the right to be treated as a person.
I don't know why my post about going to the LB caused such abrasive posts, but the end result is good. I'm happy with it and I hope this may help people who are in the same boat. Peace. |
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J.Q.A.
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Didn't even bother to read the previous posts because I just got back from my meeting with the LB.
I have to say. I am pleased with the results, even if it's not exactly what I wanted.
The important thing is timing. My contract ends in 2 months. I was given three options. First, the inspector would have a meeting with my hagwon boss about my grievances. This would be very damaging for my boss, but it could also be for me, because for my two last months they would try to make my life there miserable (they've already tried this before when they were trying to force me to resign). Also they could make up reasons to fire me before my contract ends so they wouldn't have to pay me severance pay. Second option, the inspector could call my hagwon boss anonymously. But this wouldn't be good for me because they would know it was me making the complaint and hence what would happen in the first option would happen here as well. Third option, I finish my contract (in two months) then I go to the LB and sue the hagwon. This is the best option for me, even the inspector agreed so.
So after I finish my contract and collect my severance pay, I will go to the LB and sue my hagwon. The only thing is I can't sue them for the kindie classes. What the LB will do is sue the hagwon for not giving me breaks. I only have 5 minute breaks in between classes and for 8 hrs of work a day, the hagwon owes me another 25 min break each day. So, the LB will sue my hagwon for that. So, they will owe me 25 minutes a day for 6 months. It won't be that much money, not that little either, but I'll be happy just to stick it to them. Also, we had to work Labor Day and we didn't get time and a half, so they will have to pay me that too.
Also, what I'm very pleased with is that when I file the claim after I finish my contract. The LB will fine the hagwon for writing a bad contract. I'm happy with this because from the beginning this was my main grievance. I'm so happy that bad hagwons are forced to pay for offering their foreign teachers bad contracts. And in the future, this will help foreign teachers, at least at this hagwon.
One more thing. The LB can only fine the hagwon, not sue them for the kindie classes for compensation for me. I can get a lawyer and sue the hagwon for these wages after though. Right now I'm considering this. Lawyer fees can be expensive but it might be worth it. Considering I've worked 5 classes a week for 6 months if I finish my contract, and considering the going rate for one 40 minute class.... actually getting a lawyer might be worth it. But right now I'm just thinking about it. It's a nice thought atm ^^
Lastly, I want to say that my experience at the Labor Board was a good one. The inspector was very knowledgeable and sympathetic and she really did all she could for me. She didn't throw my case out, or laugh at me, or disregard me because I was a foreigner. I would like anyone in my position not to hesitate to go to the LB for grievances against bad hagwons or schools. You do have rights, you're not powerless. You have the right to be treated as a person.
I don't know why my post about going to the LB caused such abrasive posts, but the end result is good. I'm happy with it and I hope this may help people who are in the same boat. Peace. |
I hope it works out for you, O.P. There are many expat teachers who simply do not know the options they have, or, have been beaten down by their school so much that they just give in and let it all slide, with their tail between their legs. Often times, they get upset when they learn about another expat teacher putting up a just fight and try to bring them down.
Just keep in mind the cost/benefit of this situation. Yes, the school will most likely try to make your life remaining time at there a living hell. I am willing to bet they will even make things up...that can be bad, depending on what they do. Then again, they will probably (possibly in addition to) nit-pick at ever little thing you do and frame it in a way that will get under your skin, hoping you loose your temper and do something drastic...so they can use it against you.
You may be playing a dangerous game, despite the LB being on your side. Again, I do hope it works out for you as I personally feel that hogwans NEED a kick in the but to remind them that they are not above the the law and need to be held accountable.
Just tread carefully.
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SeoulNate
Joined: 04 Jun 2010
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You do realize that exactly what everyone said would happen, happened?
The LB isn't going to do shit for you when you didn't read the contract.
As expected, you can hire a lawyer to get ~1000$ from the Hakwon and expect to pay a few times that in court and lawyer fees. (exactly what we said would happen btw) Wooptie-do.
In response to J.Q.A, no one ever said the LB is worthless, it just was in her case. If you have a real situation, like having your wages withheld, being fired at the last minute, unsafe working conditions etc, then YES, but all means, get in contact with them. Do not contact them when you simply did not read your contract. Just because you signed a shitty contract does not mean the LB needs to bail you out. Bite the bullet and quit if you want. |
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CentralCali
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To add to what SeoulNate said: The OP does not know what sue means.
What happened is the OP had a consultation. She got advised to file a complaint afer she completes her contract. Yeah, that investigation and detemination will be made lickety-split.  She was also advised what stunts the boss could pull if the OP were to file a complaint now.
The only person in this thread who has been abrasive, and even snide, is the OP. Go ahead, OP; file a complaint now and see what happens. Can you count to three? Guarantee your boss can: counseling letter one, counseling letter two, counseling letter three, you're fired. And the Labor Board cannot do a blame thing about it because the boss documented your performance and you will have no way to disprove the boss's case. Congratulations, you now have real life proof that South Korea is not the United States nor is it Europe; it's a sovereign country with its own laws. And a lawsuit, therefore, is different in Korea. Ĉu vi komprenas? |
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CentralCali
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| SeoulNate wrote: |
| Just because you signed a shitty contract does not mean the LB needs to bail you out. |
Another outfit that cannot bail you out, contrary to what so many people believe, is your embassy. Your legal problems in Korea are just that, yours. Think about it. There are currently US servicemen in Korean prison. If the embassy could bail anyone out, would those servicemen still be there? |
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