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Alias
Joined: 24 Jan 2003
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 Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2004 1:40 am Post subject: |
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| They seem to be very comfortable being naked around others. I've had countless Korean men talk to me in the locker room while they are drying off their *bleep*. |
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Corporal
Joined: 25 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2004 1:51 am Post subject: Re: Korean Army Culture |
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| diver wrote: |
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| #1 applies to all men. |
Bit of a generalization isn't it? |
No. If you go back and read more carefully you will see I am arguing that there is a certain amount of bravado in all men. Just as there is a certain amount of vulnerability in all women. Degrees, degrees. All humans have a certain amount of fluid in their bodies. Etc. etc. |
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Buff
Joined: 07 Apr 2004
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| Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2004 5:41 am Post subject: |
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| From what Korean guys have told me... they pretty much hate the army before they go but the connections they make there help them for the rest of their lives in the business realm. Without those connections it's a lot more difficult to be successful once they get out. So it's necessary for more reasons than governmental requirements. |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2004 6:14 pm Post subject: |
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| Buff wrote: |
| From what Korean guys have told me... they pretty much hate the army before they go but the connections they make there help them for the rest of their lives in the business realm. Without those connections it's a lot more difficult to be successful once they get out. So it's necessary for more reasons than governmental requirements. |
Exactly. 50 year old men invite guys from their army unit when they were 19 to their daughter's wedding.
Wonder if there's a SKY type upper echelon for recruits? The 3rd sons of Chaebol families who can't get out of their military duty get put in these units... |
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Saxiif
Joined: 15 May 2003
Location: Seongnam
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| Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2004 8:49 pm Post subject: |
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| mindmetoo wrote: |
| Buff wrote: |
| From what Korean guys have told me... they pretty much hate the army before they go but the connections they make there help them for the rest of their lives in the business realm. Without those connections it's a lot more difficult to be successful once they get out. So it's necessary for more reasons than governmental requirements. |
Exactly. 50 year old men invite guys from their army unit when they were 19 to their daughter's wedding.
Wonder if there's a SKY type upper echelon for recruits? The 3rd sons of Chaebol families who can't get out of their military duty get put in these units... |
There's definately cushy jobs out there. Knew a guy who was a law student and got a job as assistant to a Buddhist Chaplain and he didn't do too much besides sit around and watch TV. |
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Swiss James
Joined: 26 Nov 2003
Location: Shanghai
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| Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2004 10:49 pm Post subject: |
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I've just realised I never followed this up
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| It apparently involves quite a bit of consuming soju with spoons. |
how do you do that then? |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2004 2:39 am Post subject: |
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| Anyone look out over your class of high schoolers or middle schoolers and think "man, these kids are going to be in the army in only a few short years..." and feel a bit of sadness? Not that there's a war on or anything but I wouldn't imagine army life in Korea is all tea and crumpets for 2 years. Although it's probably marginally better than being a recruit in the Russian army. |
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Tiberious aka Sparkles
Joined: 23 Jan 2003
Location: I'm one cool cat!
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| Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2004 4:08 am Post subject: Re: Korean Army Culture |
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#3 I don't know about you, but when I go out for dinner with Koreans I'm always tying my shoes in the restaurant while the Koreans are pulling away in the car.
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Oh, okay. So you're saying they're in a hurry to go places? I have not noticed this personally with relation to eating. Out and about, okay, but most Koreans I know take a lot longer over food and make it a whole social/communal thing than I'm used to. |
The eating goes slowly... |
Not from my experience. I work with Koreans, and they are done their meals when I am only half-finished mine.
It sucks.
Hungry*_* |
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The Hammer
Joined: 18 Jan 2003
Location: Ullungdo 37.5 N, 130.9 E, altitude : 223 m
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| Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2004 2:12 am Post subject: |
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All Korean men do a stint in the army. How do you suppose it affects Korean society and culture?
Korean companies treat their employees like soldiers.
LG
Samsung |
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peppermint
Joined: 13 May 2003
Location: traversing the minefields of caddishness.
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| Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2004 2:59 am Post subject: |
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| All Korean men do civil service but I've met lots that didn't serve in the military. The really young police officers, the guys that work at the post office, guys working in government offices and the boy who makes my photocopies at school. I wonder how their "escape" affects them later. |
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crazylemongirl
Joined: 23 Mar 2003
Location: almost there...
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| Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2004 3:04 am Post subject: |
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| I got the hottest guy at my school doing his military service. Cute as a button and he could easily break chopsticks with his butt.... damn. |
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maneatinghorse
Joined: 27 Mar 2004
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2004 3:33 am Post subject: |
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| Saxiif wrote: |
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Exactly. 50 year old men invite guys from their army unit when they were 19 to their daughter's wedding.
Wonder if there's a SKY type upper echelon for recruits? The 3rd sons of Chaebol families who can't get out of their military duty get put in these units... |
There's definately cushy jobs out there. Knew a guy who was a law student and got a job as assistant to a Buddhist Chaplain and he didn't do too much besides sit around and watch TV. |
KATUSA seems to be one of the more cushy jobs. Well..... relative to the regular Korean army units. |
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Saxiif
Joined: 15 May 2003
Location: Seongnam
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| Posted: Thu Jul 29, 2004 5:30 am Post subject: |
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| Swiss James wrote: |
I've just realised I never followed this up
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| It apparently involves quite a bit of consuming soju with spoons. |
how do you do that then? |
I have no idea. |
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Real Reality
Joined: 10 Jan 2003
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2005 6:15 pm Post subject: |
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Private Commits Suicide Because of Beating
A private in a frontline unit in Gangwon Province, beaten by a veteran conscript, committed suicide Saturday leaving a note lodging a complaint against the assault, Army military police officials said Monday. The suicide is likely to cause no small repercussions because it happened on the heels of the Korea Army Training Center incident, in which a company commander forced conscripts to eat human feces, and because it reveals that acts of cruelty are still practiced in the Army.
An enlisted man identified merely as Private Kang, 21, was found hung from a pipe in the boiler room of a certain Army unit in Gangwon Province at around 7 p.m. Saturday.
"Mother and father, I'm sorry... Barracks life is difficult. Violence still exists and verbal assaults are rampant in the Army," Private Kang wrote in a notebook found in his pocket, according to the officials.
The Army military police disclosed that Private Kang, assigned to the unit two weeks earlier, was beaten by his senior, Corporal Kim, 22, on grounds that his "actions were slow." The military police placed Corporal Kim under immediate arrest.
Jang Il-hyun, Chosun Ilbo (February 7, 2005)
http://english.chosun.com/w21data/html/news/200502/200502070030.html |
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Tiberious aka Sparkles
Joined: 23 Jan 2003
Location: I'm one cool cat!
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| Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2005 6:42 pm Post subject: |
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| Real Reality wrote: |
Private Commits Suicide Because of Beating
A private in a frontline unit in Gangwon Province, beaten by a veteran conscript, committed suicide Saturday leaving a note lodging a complaint against the assault, Army military police officials said Monday. The suicide is likely to cause no small repercussions because it happened on the heels of the Korea Army Training Center incident, in which a company commander forced conscripts to eat human feces, and because it reveals that acts of cruelty are still practiced in the Army.
An enlisted man identified merely as Private Kang, 21, was found hung from a pipe in the boiler room of a certain Army unit in Gangwon Province at around 7 p.m. Saturday.
"Mother and father, I'm sorry... Barracks life is difficult. Violence still exists and verbal assaults are rampant in the Army," Private Kang wrote in a notebook found in his pocket, according to the officials.
The Army military police disclosed that Private Kang, assigned to the unit two weeks earlier, was beaten by his senior, Corporal Kim, 22, on grounds that his "actions were slow." The military police placed Corporal Kim under immediate arrest.
Jang Il-hyun, Chosun Ilbo (February 7, 2005)
http://english.chosun.com/w21data/html/news/200502/200502070030.html |
"Son, we live in a world that has walls, and those walls have to be guarded by men with guns. Whose gonna do it? You? You, Lt. Choi? I have more responsibility here than you could possibly fathom. You weep for Private Kang, and you curse the ROK army. You have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what I know. That Kang's death, while tragic, probably saved lives. And that my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, saves lives. I know deep down in places you don't talk about at parties, you don't want me on that wall, you need me on that wall. We use words like honor, code, loyalty. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent defending something. You use them as a punchline. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom I provide, then question the manner in which I provide it. I prefer you said thank you, and went on your way, Otherwise, I suggest you pick up a weapon, and stand to post. Either way, I don't give a damn what you think you are entitled to. "
Sparkles*_* |
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