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pet lover



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 06, 2004 7:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Food in a restaurant in Jeju IS incredibly expensive if you go to a restaurant that tourists go to (especially the ones anywhere near an attraction). I live here. I know which restaurants have the tourist prices and which ones have the islanders' prices. Also, never buy something anywhere near an attraction. That delicious chocolate is about 20 times cheaper if you go to a supermarket and don't get the fancy packaging. Those clothes, hats, purses, etc. made with the persimmon dyed cloth are cheap if you buy them at the traditional five day market or a supermarket. I think that taxis are actually quite cheap. I live in Seogwipo and can go up to Jeju City for between 15,000 and 20,000 won. That's across the island, the narrow part, granted, but still. Not that pricey. And you know what? Jeju has buses. There are also shuttle buses.

If I wanted to take a trip to some city on the mainland, I'd probably end up just as frustrated as the op because I would not KNOW the ins and outs of the place. It would be difficult for me to plop myself down in Kyoung-Ju and not end up having to spend a lot more than I had planned simply because I don't know where the really good places are and/or how to get to them. I think it's true of any location: if you go without really checking into things first, you are likely to experience frustration. And remember, tourist organizations never tell it like it truly is (in your opinion). For one thing, it's their job to make you want to go there. For another thing, everyone has a different perception of what is beautiful/fun/interesting/etc.

I'm closing in on one year here in Jeju and I must say that I truly love it here and would be happy if I never had to go to the mainland ever again. Of course, when I first got here, I went a little mad going places and buying things that I really regretted later when I found better places and far cheaper identical items. But, I hadn't known before.

By the way, as for language, keep in mind that mainlanders often have no clue what the Jeju people are saying. It's a totally different dialect and I've heard that Japanese almost sounds closer. Most of the Korean listening ability I picked up on the mainland is useless here because the dialect is so different (edited my dumb mistake) that I often have no clue what is being said even when it's something simple like, "It's cold today."

Jeju is not the kind of place to just fly in and do a whirlwind tour and have satisfaction. This is a place that requires time to find all the fascinating quirks, true sites of beauty, and really good shopping. This is not a weekend destination unless you have one specific place you want to visit and know exactly where it is, how to get there, and where you will stay.

This is not directed solely at the OP but at anyone thinking of coming down here. It's totally worth it, but you've got to come prepared. I guess you could compare it to flying to Korea blind to start teaching English for the first time in your life in a foreign country when you've never left your own country. Very Happy

EDIT: Oh, and how many people have been to a tourist resort (something that the entire island is considered to be) and NOT had the natives trying to get as much money as possible from the tourists? It's the nature of the business. If they spot you for a tourist, they are naturally going to try to take advantage. They know that the tourist usually don't know any better. They don't try that kind of thing with the locals. And yes, they take advantage of Korean tourists as well. Again, it's the nature of the business. They find out that you live here and work here, it's a whole other set of rules (and often price list). Wink


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Gord



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 06, 2004 7:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

queencarmie wrote:
good point about the prices being naturally higher because it is an island, I fully expected things to be more pricey in Jeju than on the mainland, but this was ridiculous. I was more angry about the price of the Galbi which was way higher than what the menu said and the woman refusing to give me my change for the keychain that I bought.


I believe you read the menu wrong. Calbi restaurants tend to charge one price to begin with, and then a lower fee for each additional serving. Theory being that the higher fee at the start covers the bazillion side-dishes that comes with the meal. So I think you read the extra serving price and not the starting price.

The flip-side, that being 18,000 for a two person sized calbi dinner is very much on the very cheap side of things even for an older restaurant in a non-tourist region.
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jack diamond



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 06, 2004 8:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

pet lover wrote:
Food in a restaurant in Jeju IS incredibly expensive if you go to a restaurant that tourists go to (especially the ones anywhere near an attraction). I live here. I know which restaurants have the tourist prices and which ones have the islanders' prices. Also, never buy something anywhere near an attraction. That delicious chocolate is about 20 times cheaper if you go to a supermarket and don't get the fancy packaging. Those clothes, hats, purses, etc. made with the persimmon dyed cloth are cheap if you buy them at the traditional five day market or a supermarket. I think that taxis are actually quite cheap. I live in Seogwipo and can go up to Jeju City for between 15,000 and 20,000 won. That's across the island, the narrow part, granted, but still. Not that pricey. And you know what? Jeju has buses. There are also shuttle buses.

If I wanted to take a trip to some city on the mainland, I'd probably end up just as frustrated as the op because I would not KNOW the ins and outs of the place. It would be difficult for me to plop myself down in Kyoung-Ju and not end up having to spend a lot more than I had planned simply because I don't know where the really good places are and/or how to get to them. I think it's true of any location: if you go without really checking into things first, you are likely to experience frustration. And remember, tourist organizations never tell it like it truly is (in your opinion). For one thing, it's their job to make you want to go there. For another thing, everyone has a different perception of what is beautiful/fun/interesting/etc.

I'm closing in on one year here in Jeju and I must say that I truly love it here and would be happy if I never had to go to the mainland ever again. Of course, when I first got here, I went a little mad going places and buying things that I really regretted later when I found better places and far cheaper identical items. But, I hadn't known before.

By the way, as for language, keep in mind that mainlanders often have no clue what the Jeju people are saying. It's a totally different dialect and I've heard that Japanese almost sounds closer. Most of the Korean listening ability I picked up on the mainland is useless here because the dialect is so simple that I often have no clue what is being said even when it's something simple like, "It's cold today."

Jeju is not the kind of place to just fly in and do a whirlwind tour and have satisfaction. This is a place that requires time to find all the fascinating quirks, true sites of beauty, and really good shopping. This is not a weekend destination unless you have one specific place you want to visit and know exactly where it is, how to get there, and where you will stay.

This is not directed solely at the OP but at anyone thinking of coming down here. It's totally worth it, but you've got to come prepared. I guess you could compare it to flying to Korea blind to start teaching English for the first time in your life in a foreign country when you've never left your own country. Very Happy

EDIT: Oh, and how many people have been to a tourist resort (something that the entire island is considered to be) and NOT had the natives trying to get as much money as possible from the tourists? It's the nature of the business. If they spot you for a tourist, they are naturally going to try to take advantage. They know that the tourist usually don't know any better. They don't try that kind of thing with the locals. And yes, they take advantage of Korean tourists as well. Again, it's the nature of the business. They find out that you live here and work here, it's a whole other set of rules (and often price list). Wink


pet lover,

this is such a cool post! it's the best post i think i've ever read on this board.

my wife and i are seriously considering going to cheju-do for a week or so to rekindle our romance(2nd honeymoon) after being married for 10 years. our anniversary is on august 11 and she has never been to cheju. I once went there with a group of my students during their MT training gig. it was some time ago and we had a really rocking time. if memory serves, we went to the folk village, seogwipo beach, horse back riding, cheju art park, a disco and an another island called owh-do, oow-do(sp?), the island where they filmed "swirri, swerri(sp?)"

anyway, my wife is korean and has never been to cheju-do and i want to make her fall in love with me all over again by showing her perhaps the most beautiful place in her country. she's just a really sexy, country-girl. can you help me?

i'm looking for nice, air-conditioned, cheap hotels near the beach. do you know any? i'm driving there in my car and want to take a ferry from pusan. do you think this is wise? do you know how much it costs to take the ferry from pusan to cheju-do? is there good snorkeling on cheju-do? where are all the cheap yet good tasting korean food restaurants on cheju-do? should we go to hainan island(china) instead of cheju-do?

i know i'm asking a lot here, but i really want to win her love again. i would truly appreciate any information you or anybody here has to help me.
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Pyongshin Sangja



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 06, 2004 9:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can you count in Korean?
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jack diamond



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 06, 2004 10:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pyongshin Sangja wrote:
Can you count in Korean?


count on me - jefferson starship (watta cool thread, buddy!)
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Pyongshin Sangja



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 06, 2004 10:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It wasn't my thread. I just got credit for it.

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jack diamond



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 06, 2004 10:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i'm cool. good on you for taking the credit.

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pet lover



Joined: 02 Jan 2004
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 06, 2004 3:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jack diamond~

Oh crap. I did not mean to come off sounding like I knew the entire island and all its wonderfulness. I'm STILL finding out. Smile

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i'm looking for nice, air-conditioned, cheap hotels near the beach. do you know any?

Which beach? Sorry, but I don't know any because I live here. Smile Don't really need accomodations when you can just pop back home for the night. Smile Since you are planning to take your car, don't worry about it. Just drive around and look for minbak signs. Minbaks aren't quite like what I've heard they are like on the mainland--a lot of them are much more like a nice hotel room. The one I stayed in when I visited to check out the hagwon had a nice ocean view and was said to be 70,000 won a night. It was a REALLY nice room. (I got it cheap as it belonged to the family of one of my then future students.) Just remember that the closer you are to one of the attractions listed in a tourist brochure, the more expensive the room will be.

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i'm driving there in my car and want to take a ferry from pusan. do you think this is wise?

I'd kill to be here with a car. I definitely say take the car. Then you are not dependent on taxis or buses and as one ex-co-worker used to joke, don't worry if you get lost, it's an island--you can't get TOO lost. Also, even if you are just driving around lost, you will enjoy the scenery.

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do you know how much it costs to take the ferry from pusan to cheju-do?

No idea. Don't have a car, so never asked. Somewhere on the pusan web, there is bound to be a page related to ferry stuff.

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is there good snorkeling on cheju-do?

I assume that there is as so much equipment is sold all over the place. I wouldn't know exactly as I have a jellyfish phobia and won't set foot in the ocean. I would ask at whatever place you end up getting for the night AND ask someone in whatever restaurant you eat in.

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where are all the cheap yet good tasting korean food restaurants on cheju-do?

I actually know only my own dong as I live HERE. I've sort of been waiting for the weather to get cooler before I do a lot of traveling. I've got air-conditioning and don't ever go far from it. Very Happy Oh, there is this FANTASTIC place (provided you like beef) that my boss took me to a couple of times. I don't remember exactly where it is: I'll ask on Monday. Also, I tend to cook at home so I can spend time with the dogs, birds, hamsters, fish, etc. Smile For restaurants, remember not to eat anywhere near an attraction. The food quality tends to be not as good and the prices are much higher. This is especially true if the attraction is a bit remote and there aren't many choices. Be sure to carry some fruit or snacks with you when you are out exploring so you don't get caught out and have your stomach determine what your wallet does.

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should we go to hainan island(china) instead of cheju-do?

I wouldn't know as I haven't been to hainan island and can't compare. All I can say is that I've heard the air in China is not exactly quality and I can never say enough nice things about the air here. That said, I've heard that August is the hottest month in Jeju. If hainan is cooler, you might want to consider it. The heat index is pretty much daily a steamy 110 F. Too bad your anniversary isn't in November or December--it's GORGEOUS here then. This is my first August, and I've gotta say, it's hot.

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i would truly appreciate any information you or anybody here has to help me.

Run a search for rhymeswithjeju. Foreigners who live in Jeju post there--usually just when they want to sell or buy something, but you could get a few contacts off that site--people who have been here longer and done more than I have.

Also, here are some of my favorite links:

Jeju Active Tours
Jeju Weather
Jeju Island Information and Tours
Welcome to Cheju Island
Welcome to Bukjeju County
Life In Korea's page on Jeju

A lot of these links have other links.

By the way, in Seogwipo, don't take the submarine tour. My co-worker got to go on a heavy discount (70%) discount and she said that it was only worth it with that discount and that it was no where near worth it to pay the full price. If you take a ferry ride, pay the money and on the larger of the two ferries. The little one is really little. Get on the ferry well before time to leave and stake out your spot. I went last year in October and it was fabulous. I tried to go again this year in June and accidentally ended up on the smaller ferry where they packed people in like sardines and literally shoved and elbowed my way through to get back off because I couldn't take it.

Check out this site for pics of my area: My Album
It will go private soon so that I can post pictures for my family, so check out the pics now. Keep in mind that the vast majority of the photos (as in with the possible exception of one or two) were taken in the immediate area of Seogwipo--there IS a lot more to see in Jeju.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 06, 2004 4:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi queen- To bad you had a bad time here...you can stay overnight for free in Halla National Park if you hike into the isolated woods and throw up a pup tent but that would be illegal. But you can get camping permits for some places. I think you can camp on some of the beaches too. As to the pricey food well you can get a one serving plate of horsemeat for 20,000.00 - I want to try it out before I leave - but I want to get a few raw strips too.
Hey Jack --
Hyeopjaw beach is on the NW side it is across from an island and very scenic. Sinyang beach is on the mid-east part it has an insular blob that provides good snorkeling too. The island of Munseom right off the Seogwi Harbor is good for diving but I assume you could also see some stuff just snorkeling - you have to take a boat to it since it is around some ship lanes.
I'm a filthy Stoat myself - I've skin dived many a time right off the Jeju City Board Walk - what��s a little city pollution when your in love with the sea- not to many fish to see though. A buddy also told me Iho Beach has dirty water - but hey I skin dive that anyway and there are a few packs of fish by the rocks - but then I swim way out to the second set of rocks too.
Err not to seem negative too - after all it is a cultural learning experience, but I'd rather be on the "Big Hawaii" again not the "Little Hawaii" now that would be some sweeeeet snorkeling - but they wouldn't think I was sooo smart there just cuz I can talk in English.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 06, 2004 8:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with Mr. Toad and Pet lover about Jeju. I live here, and I don't think it's that expensive at all. I found Seoul to be a little more expensive.

Food? Galbi is cheap here, I never pay more than about 15.000 per person and that includes a 2nd round of meat normally, plus a few drinks. Of course, it helps that my friends took me there the first time and they're in good with the owner! But still, even at a new restaurant to me, I don't pay more than 30.000 to 40.000 for me and my girlfriend (and we can drink a lot!).

Taxis are expensive? Where? The most I've ever paid for a taxi here was 7.000 and that was to go from Hallim to Jeju (about 35 km). Most taxi rides are 3.000 or less. Plus the bus system goes everywhere and it's only 900 for one-way. Cheap to me. Now i've got a motorcycle and don't need those services anymore....

And Jack, if you have any questions, I can try to help as well. I'm in guJejusi, so I know about this area a bit. Plus I worked in sinJejusi for a while, so I know a bit about there as well. Been most places, but don't ask about accomodations...no clue!

KPRROK
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 06, 2004 8:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mindmetoo wrote:
KoreanLifer wrote:
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the chejuians r highway robbers! 9,000w for bimbimbap i remember and the local bus from village to village was 4,000w.never took a taxi because it must be unreal.the yogwan was 70,000w and nothing special at all.not even cable tv at that price.


It's an island right? Things have to be shipped in. It's not surprising things are more expensive on Jeju. Resource poor island life anywhere in the world, from Vancouver island to Jeju, tends to result in higher costs for everything.


That's not it. I mean, come on. It's not as if we're talking about shipping something from Toronto to Nunavut. This country's probably no bigger than NB and NS put together. It's expensive because Jeju is the biggest tourist trap in Korea.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 06, 2004 9:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Koreans love it because they can't get a visa to go to the real Hawaii.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 06, 2004 9:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ESL jobs in Cheju have, I've heard, pay a hundred thousand less than the usual mainland job. I wonder if this is in the 'ripping off of tourists'/get what you can vein or because owners think teachers will work in a desirable location and might accept less pay for the perk, or both.
I stayed at a yogwon for ten thousand. This was four years ago. A guy at the ferry terminal handing out his yogwon card with a lift to his place.
The OP makes Cheju sound like a trip to hell. The only bad experience I had was wondering at my lack of taste, in hindsight, buying a small, lime green, plastic, glow-in-the-dark male effigy figure like those of Easter Island. Why?
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 06, 2004 10:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm surprised to hear people think 15,000 Won for Kalbi is cheap. It's about par for beef Kalbi in Seoul but there are plenty of cheaper restaurants around Sinchon and Hongdae.

I first heard about Cheju island from adult students when I first arrived. They kept telling me how great it was and I didn't believe them for a second, in fact I decided there was no way anyone in their right mind would waste their vacation time in any part of Korea when they could go to the Philippines or Thailand etc.

When I finally ended up going to Cheju island I wasn't expecting anything much, so was really pleasantly surprised to find a tropical island with vivid green tropical colours contrasting with twisted volcanic black rock and sand beaches. Go backpacker style on the cheap, by boat, and no-one will try to rip you off. Me and my girlfriend were given a lift by a guy after missing a bus and he took us on a tour of the local sights and then bought us dinner. We went around Udo too and were given fresh caught shellfish with gochujang and local soju by some locals. The hotels and resorts in Seogipo (sp?) did look pretty nice though if you can afford them...

I'd go again any time.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 06, 2004 11:07 pm    Post subject: What the ?????? Reply with quote

I've lived in Jeju for 8 years now. Taxis are cheap, buses are cheap and 9000won for Bibimbap is just not possible, (perhaps in a large tourist hotel). Furthermore I've never encountered a hotel (minbak, yeogwan) that cost more than 40,000 won during the tourist season. 100,000 won is the going rate for a taxi tour of the island. This information is readily available at any Cheju tourism website.

Jeju people are generally friendly and honest. On more than one occassion I've had old ladies chase me down the street to return the 100 won coin that I left on the store counter. In the markets the locals will go out of their way to cut the prices for the waygooks.

I don't know what the OP is talking about or where he/she went but it is pure nonsense. Come to Jeju, enjoy yourself, the summer here is awesome.


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