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Real Reality



Joined: 10 Jan 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Fri Sep 10, 2004 3:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"semi-colon is my punctuational friend"

"Used sparingly, the semicolon emphasizes your crucial contrasts; used recklessly, it merely clutters your page."
-- Sheridan Baker

"A period is a stop sign. A semicolon is a rolling stop sign; a comma is merely an amber light."
-- Andrew Offutt
http://www.csc.calpoly.edu/~ebrunner/GrammatiCat/Punctuate/SemiColon.html

I have grown fond of semicolons in recent years.... It is almost always a greater pleasure to come across a semicolon than a period. The period tells you that that is that; if you didn't get all the meaning you wanted or expected, anyway you got all the writer intended to parcel out and now you have to move along. But with a semicolon there you get a pleasant little feeling of expectancy; there is more to come; read on; it will get clearer.
-- Lewis Thomas
http://webster.commnet.edu/grammar/marks/semicolon.htm
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coolsage



Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: The overcast afternoon of the soul

PostPosted: Fri Sep 10, 2004 7:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

RR, you're certainly on your grammatical game on this day. This of course, has nothing to do with the original thread, and is perhaps deserving of a thread of its very own. I'm usually on the same page with you with respect to your observations of Korean society (although I notice that you are more fond of citing sources than personalizing your appearances here); and there goes that pesky semi-colon again. Have a nice weekend.
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captain kirk



Joined: 29 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Fri Sep 10, 2004 8:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Long sentences are a sign someone's holding forth, like bla bla bla. Since Real Reality doesn't talk much I can see why his opposite, someone holding forth, would be a bother. Cheers to someone for waking a bore out of his boring himself, and others. Signed, 'a startled bore'(R.R for board Sherrif).
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R. S. Refugee



Joined: 29 Sep 2004
Location: Shangra La, ROK

PostPosted: Sat Nov 27, 2004 6:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dalton wrote:


The real problem here is the pic. Koreans seem to hire people according to their pic reguardless of their qualifications. Not one has ever guessed my age correctly in four years. They all knock 15 or more years off. Maybe I'm lucky. Laughing


I don't quite understand this comment, since the pic is usually on the passport photocopy that they request along with your application and the birthdate is on that page. So, how would they guess the wrong age when the birthdate is right there in front of them? (This is more than idle curiosity as I am an older ESL teacher looking for my first gig in Korea right now.)
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just because



Joined: 01 Aug 2003
Location: Changwon - 4964

PostPosted: Sat Nov 27, 2004 7:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

R.S.Refugee wrote:
I don't quite understand this comment, since the pic is usually on the passport photocopy that they request along with your application and the birthdate is on that page. So, how would they guess the wrong age when the birthdate is right there in front of them? (This is more than idle curiosity as I am an older ESL teacher looking for my first gig in Korea right now.)

Its all about perception. If you are 40y.o. but you look 30 then the director can just bend the truth when showing new parents,etc.

Definantly look tidy and neat and it should be fine.
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MixtecaMike



Joined: 24 Nov 2003
Location: 3rd Largest Train Station in Korea

PostPosted: Sat Nov 27, 2004 9:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you are over 40 I really recommend coming over here and looking for work rather than emailing from the other side of the world.

I think many more bosses are prepared to spare an hour or two for an interview and a teaching demo than are prepared to send an airticket to some "old" guy.

I sent quite a few mails looking for a job, no interest. After I got my own ticket, some more emails sent, a few replies. Once I got here, there was a lot of interest and I found something pretty much right away.

I got my visa run paid for and I get a payment equal to 1/2 my airfare when six months is up. I then negotiate my next 6 months and I'm guessing the other half of a ticket will not be a problem. Even if you don't get your ticket reimbursed within three weeks you should have earned enough to cover that expense, and it's better than sitting on your seat looking at job ads.

Supposing you are a good teacher many places will hire you, they just see it as a bigger risk hiring a golden oldie long distance than hiring an alcoholic horndog.
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sadsac



Joined: 22 Dec 2003
Location: Gwangwang

PostPosted: Sun Nov 28, 2004 5:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are plenty of good opportunities for older folk here. I am now 46 and have never had a problem getting work. Being married has also been a bonus. Smile
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Grotto



Joined: 21 Mar 2004

PostPosted: Sun Nov 28, 2004 6:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

some schools want to portray a young vibrant school others want expereinced teachers who will stick it out. No problem finding jobs here.
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Real Reality



Joined: 10 Jan 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sun Nov 28, 2004 12:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sadsac wrote,
"Being married has also been a bonus."

How is being married a "bonus?"
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Mr. Pink



Joined: 21 Oct 2003
Location: China

PostPosted: Sun Nov 28, 2004 2:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Real Reality wrote:
sadsac wrote,
"Being married has also been a bonus."

How is being married a "bonus?"


As someone who does hiring I can tell you the "bonus" part in my perception:

1) said person is more stable than a single person. I don't have to worry about them doing a runner.
2) married people are a LOT less likely to be wanting to date students than single people Razz

If I have two candidates who are equal in every respect, but one is married and the other is single, I'd probably prefer the married one for the above reasons.
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