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Tired to teach in Korea? A good opportunity in Hong Kong...
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Zed



Joined: 20 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 13, 2004 6:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zyzyfer wrote:
I can't get the site where you're supposed to download the application form to work. I want to know what exactly they consider to be recognized qualifications. Investing a year into getting the qualifications sounds like it's worth it for this.

http://www.emb.gov.hk/index.aspx?nodeID=262&langno=1
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Zed



Joined: 20 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 13, 2004 6:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You know what's screwed up? There's more helpful information in this thread about getting a job in HK than there is in the HK forums. If you want to know about PGCEs/PGDEs check out a thread on the UK forums.
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crazylemongirl



Joined: 23 Mar 2003
Location: almost there...

PostPosted: Thu Oct 14, 2004 6:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

sounds like the bar is really high in hong kong...
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Toby



Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 14, 2004 11:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I met a guy on honeymoon who is teaching that program and really enjoys it.

Money was less than here though, after housing has been paid blah blah, plus the cost of living is about 300% more than here.
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Zyzyfer



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 14, 2004 11:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zed wrote:
Zyzyfer wrote:
I can't get the site where you're supposed to download the application form to work. I want to know what exactly they consider to be recognized qualifications. Investing a year into getting the qualifications sounds like it's worth it for this.

http://www.emb.gov.hk/index.aspx?nodeID=262&langno=1


I looked around on that link and still can't figure out what they consider to be recognized teacher training credentials. I'll probably have to email someone.
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Zed



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 15, 2004 12:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zyzyfer wrote:
Zed wrote:
Zyzyfer wrote:
I can't get the site where you're supposed to download the application form to work. I want to know what exactly they consider to be recognized qualifications. Investing a year into getting the qualifications sounds like it's worth it for this.

http://www.emb.gov.hk/index.aspx?nodeID=262&langno=1


I looked around on that link and still can't figure out what they consider to be recognized teacher training credentials. I'll probably have to email someone.


http://www.emb.gov.hk/index.aspx?nodeid=1301&langno=1

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Qualifications for Appointment

Candidates should be native-speakers of English or have native-speaker English competence and should possess:
(i) A bachelor's degree majoring in English Language or English Literature or English Studies or Linguistics** or a Modern Language** OR a Bachelor of Education degree (majoring in English or a Modern Language** but not primary education specialist) obtained after 3 years' full-time study; and
(ii) A Post-graduate Diploma in Education (PGDE) majoring in English or equivalent; and
(iii) At least 1 year's post-graduate experience of teaching English (preferably as a second or foreign language) at secondary school level or above.
Applicants who possess a Teaching of English as a Foreign Language or a Second Language (TEFL/TESL) qualification at least at diploma level on top of the above will be given priority.
Applicants who possess a bachelor's degree in other academic subjects AND a PGDE or equivalent AND a TEFL/TESL qualification at least at diploma level AND at least 1 year's post-graduate experience of teaching English at secondary school level or above may also apply and the applications may only be considered when there are positions left unfilled by candidates meeting all the qualification requirements.

** A degree in Linguistics or Modern Languages should be one in which English is the major language studies.

For appointment in special schools, preference will be given to candidates who have special education training and/or experience in teaching students with special educational needs.
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Zed



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 15, 2004 12:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's for a Secondary School NET.
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Scott in HK



Joined: 15 Jan 2003
Location: now in Incheon..haven't changed my name yet

PostPosted: Fri Oct 15, 2004 3:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The cost of living in HK is high...not 3x that of Korea though. Any single person even making the minimum who did save more than than the average salary in Korea....using 2m won equals about 14K hk....was spending way too much money....

and that is just for those making the bare min....with any experience...you salary goes up...as long as the experience is in the age group you will be teaching...they don't count elementary experience if you are applying for the secondary program
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Zyzyfer



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 15, 2004 5:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The elusive PGDE is the only certification they'll take? Argh.
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Zed



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 15, 2004 6:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zyzyfer wrote:
The elusive PGDE is the only certification they'll take? Argh.

That's in lieu of a BEd.
They still like you to have a CELTA or TESOL though.
But you MUST have either a BEd or PGCE/PGDE.
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Zyzyfer



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 15, 2004 6:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

From the list, it looks like they want both a BEd (or an English-related degree) and a PGDE.
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Ilsanman



Joined: 15 Aug 2003
Location: Bucheon, Korea

PostPosted: Fri Oct 15, 2004 7:59 am    Post subject: yes Reply with quote

I really liked HK when I went there, and I had thoughts about living there.

If I find no reason to stay here, I will give it some serious thought.
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Scott in HK



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 15, 2004 8:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What they want you to have is a certificate that allows you to teach in your home country...one that had a practicum of a certain length...which I can't remember right now...in canada that is a b'ed...in other countries it is the post graduate degree in education...in the states it might be something else...

and the tesol is at the diploma level...which means celta is out...dip usually means a year course....though a delta might qualify...this part though you really don't have to worry about...i didn't meet any teachers that had both a teaching cert and a dip in tesol....

your real competition is simply experience...they like to hire teachers with the right paper and experience at the right grade level
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Zyzyfer



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 15, 2004 8:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Scott in HK wrote:
your real competition is simply experience...they like to hire teachers with the right paper and experience at the right grade level


I've got secondary experience covered, as well as an English-related degree.

Perhaps from U.S. teachers they'd want licensure? That's all that I'd need now to teach back home. It'd only take me a year and wouldn't be expensive at all. I'll have to email someone on the program staff about it.
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Jasmine



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Hongkers!

PostPosted: Sat Oct 16, 2004 4:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

again - you need a pgce or a bed + tesol OR CELTA

whoever said it doesn't count is wrong.

I have a lot of friends who work for the NET scheme
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