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Do ESL teachers in korea bore you?
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crazylemongirl



Joined: 23 Mar 2003
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 14, 2004 4:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe this sounds weird but I don't expect others to entertain me. If I'm bored then I go and do something to entertain me. Perhaps the problem isn't so much with other people that make you bored but the fact that you're boring.
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pecan



Joined: 01 Jul 2004

PostPosted: Thu Oct 14, 2004 5:04 pm    Post subject: Agree... Reply with quote

I agree with crazymelongirl.

It has been said many times before, but people that get bored are boring.

The mere fact that people look for others to entertain them speaks volumes.

Life is about living and creating one's own challenges and dynamics, as far as I am concerned.

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fairycat



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 14, 2004 5:27 pm    Post subject: DDDD Reply with quote

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nev



Joined: 04 Jan 2004
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 14, 2004 5:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can't imagine ever getting tired of hearing tales of how cold Canada is and how the nasty director doesn't know how to run a school.

I stop myself from becoming boring by my gift of perpetual dance.
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captain kirk



Joined: 29 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Thu Oct 14, 2004 8:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As soon as an f-teacher, and I'm one, says anything negative (unless it's said in a funny way) I groan and grope for the exit. Got enuff of that going on, and I try to convert it into humour, and so detour around it. But point blank 'Korea bad' is a wall I know already, thanks. No need to drill it in unless
-they have no control about it
-they like being depressed Smile
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rawiri



Joined: 01 Jun 2003
Location: Lovely day for a fire drill.

PostPosted: Thu Oct 14, 2004 8:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I agree with that. But if you're natural born boring one you can't change it. if you're a nut, you're still a nut. People attractive are basically attractive. That isn't depend on how many times you've been to places. And the reason you can travell a lot is because you're a native English speaker. What if English was not international language? I'm sure that you couldn't even think to buy a plane ticket to Korea. ESL teachers are easy to make money in Asian countries. Many of you guys don't even have a English education degree but you can easily find a job here. How many of you guys here really willing to teach English? Except English education, What else can you do in different countries? To make money in different country, non-English speaker has to work hard a lot in their field. They must be a professional someone. So what else can you do except teaching your language to non-English speaker? How will you make money in different countries? You just have a better option to have a chance to travell a lot. Many of non-English speakers are willing to travell a lot as much as like you. So they try hard to get a chance. Spending so much money to learn damn language, working hard to get a professional skill, studying to get a good test score. Does this mean those are boring? If you wanna see interesting korean, go back to your country and see koreans living there. Belong to your idea, they'll be more interesting to you. To me, many of foreign English teachers here are so boring. Don't even have any special skill but English(is this special skill? born in the particular country?), keep complaing about this country(so why are you here? just to make money? that's why you're so boring), same boring English teacher's idea. No other knowledge. Sometimes I wonder that what this guy would do in his country if he's not here. would be more interesting?





WORD brother (or sister).
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butter808fly



Joined: 09 May 2004
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 14, 2004 9:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree also, life is anything but boring. Cool
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Zyzyfer



Joined: 29 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 14, 2004 9:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The cookie cutter hakwon guys are boring, but I've met a lot of interesting people here as well. It's pretty easy here to stay away from people who don't interest you...
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kiwiboy_nz_99



Joined: 05 Jul 2003
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 15, 2004 6:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Damn straight. You forgot to add that most conversations with other "ESLers" (I use that term loosely) inevitibley turn into a grotesque pissing contest, as to who's been here longer, who makes more money, who has more vacation time, who's kimchi is spicier, blah blah blah.

That gets pretty damn boring pretty quick.

Testify. HERE is the place to complain if you need to. Out on the piss that's the LAST thing I'm into. I'm all about the GOOD TIMES baby!
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kiwiboy_nz_99



Joined: 05 Jul 2003
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 15, 2004 6:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I agree with that. But if you're natural born boring one you can't change it. if you're a nut, you're still a nut. People attractive are basically attractive. That isn't depend on how many times you've been to places. And the reason you can travell a lot is because you're a native English speaker. What if English was not international language? I'm sure that you couldn't even think to buy a plane ticket to Korea. ESL teachers are easy to make money in Asian countries. Many of you guys don't even have a English education degree but you can easily find a job here. How many of you guys here really willing to teach English? Except English education, What else can you do in different countries? To make money in different country, non-English speaker has to work hard a lot in their field. They must be a professional someone. So what else can you do except teaching your language to non-English speaker? How will you make money in different countries? You just have a better option to have a chance to travell a lot. Many of non-English speakers are willing to travell a lot as much as like you. So they try hard to get a chance. Spending so much money to learn damn language, working hard to get a professional skill, studying to get a good test score. Does this mean those are boring? If you wanna see interesting korean, go back to your country and see koreans living there. Belong to your idea, they'll be more interesting to you. To me, many of foreign English teachers here are so boring. Don't even have any special skill but English(is this special skill? born in the particular country?), keep complaing about this country(so why are you here? just to make money? that's why you're so boring), same boring English teacher's idea. No other knowledge. Sometimes I wonder that what this guy would do in his country if he's not here. would be more interesting?

I digged this post to the mega mickey max ...
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captain kirk



Joined: 29 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Fri Oct 15, 2004 6:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

'The cookie cutter hagwon guys are boring'.

Jeez that's obnoxious, Zyz. I work in a hagwon, go to the local and meet other teachers, and I can't picture these 'boring, cookie cutter hagwon guys'. Such a remark smacks of princess syndrome Very Happy
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Corporal



Joined: 25 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Fri Oct 15, 2004 6:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Other ESL teachers do bore me to a great extent. I don't seek them out.
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kiwiboy_nz_99



Joined: 05 Jul 2003
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 16, 2004 12:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Other ESL teachers do bore me to a great extent. I don't seek them out.

That's quite appropriate. If there was a local Amish community that would be your best choice for fitting in ...


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Sam Berri



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 16, 2004 3:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I actually try and seek the forigners out i guess. Been living in a small place actually make you do stuff with them and you are better friends.

I like the expats in Korea or most of the ones i've met. or the ones who have actually taught other than in or around seoul.
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rapier



Joined: 16 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Sat Oct 16, 2004 4:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="fairycat"][quote="korian"]
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But if you're natural born boring one you can't change it
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Wrong. People can change into whatever they want, with a bit of effort.
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People attractive are basically attractive. That isn't depend on how many times you've been to places.

But visiting other places and having new experiences brings perspective and interest to a person, as opposed to living in Korea your entire life, believing fans are the greatest killer of mankind.
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And the reason you can travell a lot is because you're a native English speaker

It helps a lot. So learn English, and you can too.
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What if English was not international language?

But it is.Deal with it.
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I'm sure that you couldn't even think to buy a plane ticket to Korea.
Correct, why would anyone want to come here? The fantastic beaches?
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ESL teachers are easy to make money in Asian countries.

have you tried to teach Korean to a classroom of anarchic western kids, who don't want to learn and are allowed to disrespect you as they wish, with no materials, no syllabus, no support, while the boss tries to not pay you constantly, and you are treated by an alien by everyone around you? Its not easy money as you think. Its hard going. Most Koreans would run home to Oma after a day of it in another country.
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How many of you guys here really willing to teach English?

Plenty of us, which is why we have taken the time to get teaching qualifications before getting here.Often the only thing stopping us doing a great job are Koreans themselves, and their wacky management concepts.
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To make money in different country, non-English speaker has to work hard a lot in their field. They must be a professional someone.
True. But making a lot of cash is not the only incentive to experience another country and culture. Why not just visit it to have a good time and open your mind to something else? Not everything = money.
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So what else can you do except teaching your language to non-English speaker? How will you make money in different countries?
Not all eslers are losers who can do nothing else. Some leave good careers so they can travel and teach, and experience wonderful Korean culure. Some just prefer the lifestyle more than being stuck in a 9-5 career at home.
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You just have a better option to have a chance to travell a lot. Many of non-English speakers are willing to travell a lot as much as like you. So they try hard to get a chance. Spending so much money to learn damn language, working hard to get a professional skill,

Last time I looked, there were plenty of flights out of Korea to anywhere else. You don't have to be a lawyer to travel. You can pick fruit or a host of other menial jobs. Or are they beneath every Korean person?
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studying to get a good test score.

If you paid more attention in all those hagwon years instead of throwing things at the waeguk, you wouldn't need a sudden expensive quick-fix study course after you leave school.
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If you wanna see interesting korean, go back to your country and see koreans living there

Are you saying Koreans over here are boring? And the old "go back to your country" statement, how predictable. You want us to be here, but you hate foreigners being here at the same time, because we're not Korean. I hope the locals tell that to you whenever you visit somewhere else.
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To me, many of foreign English teachers here are so boring. Don't even have any special skill but English(is this special skill? born in the particular country?), keep complaing about this country(so why are you here? just to make money? that's why you're so boring), same boring English teacher's idea. No other knowledge. Sometimes I wonder that what this guy would do in his country if he's not here. would be more interesting?[

I know painting all foreigners with the same brush is a Korean trait, but give it a break for once. The diversity of nationalities, different backgrounds and various skills of foreigners here can be quite interesting. You're lucky some foreigners, boring or not, are adventurous enough to stick it out here to help you learn a useful language.
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