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thorin



Joined: 14 Apr 2003

PostPosted: Wed Dec 01, 2004 5:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

J.B. Clamence wrote:
Yes, slaving for a year at Mr. Kwak's Super Best English Academy looks just as impressive on a resume as participating in a Fulbright cultural exchage program. Yeah...


You mean resumes have words? I thought they just looked at the pictures. Laughing
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J.B. Clamence



Joined: 15 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Wed Dec 01, 2004 6:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That may be true for getting a job in Korea, but when the professor back in the states says that people do the Fulbright for the prestige, he's talking about people who go to Korea for a year and then go back to the states to start a career. After all, that's what people who do the Fulbright program are usually interested in doing. Most of these people aren't planning to teach English for a long period of time like most of us. They just want to do their year and move on to other things. And for them, when applying for corporate jobs back in the states after their year is up, I would say that being able to say that you spent a year in Korea with a Fulbright cultural exchange program is much more impressive than saying that you went to work at some crappy hakwon for a year. Some things are more important that a few extra bucks.

However, if you're planning to be a teacher for a long time, then you're right -- screw the Fulbright. But, as I said, most people who are attracted by the Fulbright program are the kind of people who want to start careers back home as soon as their year is up, so for them, the Fulbright is the way to go.

But as I said, I would never do it simply because of the homestay BS. That would be like hell.
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Adam J



Joined: 11 Apr 2004

PostPosted: Wed Dec 01, 2004 12:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey people, thanks for all the information. The mandatory homestay is a deal breaker for me. I value my space and my privacy above most other things, including money.

One of the department chairs at my high school in the U.S. suggested I apply for this program. It does have a bit of a snooty reputation around here, and I think that is due entirely to the Fulbright name. The working conditions sound less than ideal, however.
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gochubandit



Joined: 29 Jul 2004
Location: under your bed... with a marker

PostPosted: Wed Dec 01, 2004 1:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sounds good. i sorta regret not getting into the program myself, but i tend to see in a different light now. the program's only benefit is name recognition, plus i'm sure once ur on it, it'll feel a little "programmed" if u know what i mean. why follow an itinerary when u can make ur own adventures? best of luck to ya. Smile
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omarr380



Joined: 17 Jun 2004

PostPosted: Wed Dec 01, 2004 5:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello. I emailed the Fulbright program a few times, but missed the deadline to apply this year. On the program you get an A-3 visa, which is considered a "semi-diplomatic" visa. That may not mean much, but it does mean that the U.S. Embassy, not some hogwan owner, is your sponsor.

I asked about the Korean co-teachers and this was the response:

Quote:
While all ETAs have 1 official coteacher, most teach the classes of several English faculty. Korean coteachers range in involvement in classes - some of my coteachers tracked attendance and behavior (very helpful), a few wanted to participate (ie. coteach), and others just observed. The English teachers gave me guidelines for curriculum, but let me plan and execute my own lessons. Likewise, the English level of teachers ranges from conversationally fluent to almost completely fluent (most have a strong grammar background). Here are some applicable questions/answers from a survey of this year's ETA class:

20. Are you expected to teach from a book or do you create your own
lessons?
a) allowed to create lessons--84%
b) alternates between following a book & creating lessons---16%

21. How often is there a co-teacher with you in class?
a) rarely or never--48% b) sometimes---23% c) always---29%

ETAs have an opportunity to state their preferences prior to placement assignment, but it might be difficult to determine which schools would have more in-charge coteachers since school faculty turnsover so often and that's a more subjective question to answer.


In my opinion, the pay is lower than a hogwan but you're paying that extra 1,000,000 for a prestigious name on your resume and to be put in an educational institution that isn't a baby-sitting service. You'll have the US Embassy and a Korean family (most likely) as your support system and not some hogwan owner that sees you as a paycheck and wants as little to do with you as possible, even when you're in trouble. You sacrifice money for REAL teaching experience and honesty. In the ESL industry in this part of the world, the latter is in short supply.
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chronicpride



Joined: 16 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Wed Dec 01, 2004 7:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

omarr380 wrote:
You sacrifice money for REAL teaching experience and honesty. In the ESL industry in this part of the world, the latter is in short supply.
Your part of the world is the US. I find it hard to believe that there are not many honest jobs over there that offer real teaching experience. As for Korea, well, a significant part of the hogwan industry doesn't have anything to do with education. But if one is willing to apply at hogwan factories than I would hope that one is aware that they are not aiming for an education-rich environment, that is ripe with credibility. But often people associate the hogwan industry in Korea as being the sole occupier in the local ESL market, and therefore, judge the whole market accordingly. There are other avenues to apply to, that offer a lot more teaching experience and development, plus more reputable than most private institutes.
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bitna



Joined: 16 Nov 2004
Location: Hawaii

PostPosted: Thu Dec 09, 2004 11:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was also going to apply for the Fulbright scholarship for academic year 05-06, but the deadline passed. Does anyone know anything about EPIK (english program in Korea)? The intern at Fulbright suggested I apply for that program since I missed the deadline for Fulbright.
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