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visa renewal 'reference letter' - WTF?
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crazylemongirl



Joined: 23 Mar 2003
Location: almost there...

PostPosted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 5:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm still confused. The thing that is driving me in this whole mess is CONSISTENCY. Everyone seems to have different answers, and the other guy let my friend through no problems.

Grrrrrrrrr. 1 week to go... I hate korean admin.
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Seoul Skye



Joined: 28 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 6:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I work for a Korean law firm and have handled visa issues for three years.

Seoul Immigration has recently started requiring a "Letter of Guarantee" for E2 renewals, which is simply a letter stating that your employer does indeed employ you, that you do not work elsewhere, and that you are a decent human being without a criminal record who will not commit crimes during your stay in Korea.

The letter does not have to be in English and there is no set form beyond the usual form for "official" paperwork in Korea. The reason it could not be faxed is that Seoul Immigration requires an original.

As long as you submit all of the paperwork before the expiration date on your ARC, you'll be fine.
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JongnoGuru



Joined: 25 May 2004
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 6:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seoul Skye wrote:
I work for a Korean law firm and have handled visa issues for three years.

Seoul Immigration has recently started requiring a "Letter of Guarantee" for E2 renewals, which is simply a letter stating that your employer does indeed employ you, that you do not work elsewhere, and that you are a decent human being without a criminal record who will not commit crimes during your stay in Korea.

The letter does not have to be in English and there is no set form beyond the usual form for "official" paperwork in Korea. The reason it could not be faxed is that Seoul Immigration requires an original.

As long as you submit all of the paperwork before the expiration date on your ARC, you'll be fine.


And this "Letter of Guarantee" differs in what substantive way from a "Certificate of Employment" which has been a required document for renewing a visa (not sure about E2 specifically) since Moses?
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crazylemongirl



Joined: 23 Mar 2003
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 6:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seoul Skye wrote:
I work for a Korean law firm and have handled visa issues for three years.

Seoul Immigration has recently started requiring a "Letter of Guarantee" for E2 renewals, which is simply a letter stating that your employer does indeed employ you, that you do not work elsewhere, and that you are a decent human being without a criminal record who will not commit crimes during your stay in Korea.

The letter does not have to be in English and there is no set form beyond the usual form for "official" paperwork in Korea. The reason it could not be faxed is that Seoul Immigration requires an original.

As long as you submit all of the paperwork before the expiration date on your ARC, you'll be fine.


Thank you so much! If you were in new zealand I would give you a chocolate fish!
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Seoul Skye



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 19, 2005 10:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JongoGuru,

Theoretically, the letter confirms the owner verified that the teacher has no criminal record and that they will be responsible if the teacher commits infractions in Korea. Yes, I know, what a waste of paper but Immigration officials can do pretty much what they feel like doing.

The aforementioned letter is also required for some other visa types so Immigration is not just targeting teachers.
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prairieboy



Joined: 14 Sep 2003
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 20, 2005 1:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seoul Skye wrote:
JongoGuru,

Theoretically, the letter confirms the owner verified that the teacher has no criminal record and that they will be responsible if the teacher commits infractions in Korea. Yes, I know, what a waste of paper but Immigration officials can do pretty much what they feel like doing.

The aforementioned letter is also required for some other visa types so Immigration is not just targeting teachers.


To obtain the blue paper for your original visa they have to do this. They have to have it notarized. Part of the visa sponsorship is accepting responsibility for the infractions of a teacher and immigration already has a copy of this paper.

The beauty of beauracracy. Very Happy
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JongnoGuru



Joined: 25 May 2004
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 20, 2005 2:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

prairieboy wrote:
Seoul Skye wrote:
JongoGuru,

Theoretically, the letter confirms the owner verified that the teacher has no criminal record and that they will be responsible if the teacher commits infractions in Korea. Yes, I know, what a waste of paper but Immigration officials can do pretty much what they feel like doing.

The aforementioned letter is also required for some other visa types so Immigration is not just targeting teachers.


To obtain the blue paper for your original visa they have to do this. They have to have it notarized. Part of the visa sponsorship is accepting responsibility for the infractions of a teacher and immigration already has a copy of this paper.

The beauty of beauracracy. Very Happy


Ugh... This thread is dredging up some long-buried bad memories of visa-renewal conundrums, and of Korean Immigration and Korean employers not communicating with each other, and of me -- the only one who's a$$ was on the line -- trapped in the middle and trying my damnest to figure things out before my visa expired. Sad

As my sig line reads, I really don't know much about ESL or the related visas. But this "Letter of Guarantee" reminds me of what we used to call (and perhaps still is called) a "sponsorship document". In my case it was the Korean president of the company I worked for (a man I'd never met once) who had to personally/legally/financially play "guarantor" for me, and this involved a 40 million won surety. I paid a fee of several hundred thousand won to an insurance company for the latter, as I recall. Boy, the process was complicated back then.
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crazylemongirl



Joined: 23 Mar 2003
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 5:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok what the school needs to do is get a copy of the intial letter they sent to immigration and fill it again saying that you're a good person.

It needs to be signed by a lawyer too.

CLG happy with her renewed visa.
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SuperHero



Joined: 10 Dec 2003
Location: Superhero Hideout

PostPosted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 5:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

THis morning, I went in with all the paperwork. But he returned it to me and only kept the contract. It took 2 minutes.. then I waited 10 minutes and got my passport back stamped - no return trips.

This could be because I am on a F-2-1

Anyhow sorry to hear about all your troubles...
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Derrek



Joined: 15 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 7:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is all so totally NOT the teacher's responsibility.

This stuff should be handled by the school whenever possible.
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