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jaykimf
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| Actually I do have a clue. The front of my ARC says F2-1, the back gave the name of the hagwon I worked at, and the expiry date. No E2 written on it. |
That is your E2. If you wanted to work at a second job, you would have two lines written on the back of it. Both would have the name and adress of the institute and expirary date.
Once again "Permission to work" = E2 Visa
Check the stamps on your passport. |
No. You're wrong. My passport says" permission for engaging in activities not covered by the status of sojourn" |
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Kimchieluver
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| Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 7:58 pm Post subject: |
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Yes I did fill out a permission to work application and have done so many times. I never filled out An E2 Visa application as that is what the application is supposed to give you.
I agree on one point. It's probably up to each individual office what stamps they use and what they put on your ARC
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Kimchieluver wrote:
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Actually I do have a clue. The front of my ARC says F2-1, the back gave the name of the hagwon I worked at, and the expiry date. No E2 written on it.
That is your E2. If you wanted to work at a second job, you would have two lines written on the back of it. Both would have the name and adress of the institute and expirary date.
Once again "Permission to work" = E2 Visa
Check the stamps on your passport.
No. You're wrong. My passport says" permission for engaging in activities not covered by the status of sojourn
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tzechuk
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| Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 8:44 pm Post subject: |
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| jaykimf wrote: |
| Kimchieluver wrote: |
tzechuck wrote
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| Actually I do have a clue. The front of my ARC says F2-1, the back gave the name of the hagwon I worked at, and the expiry date. No E2 written on it. |
That is your E2. If you wanted to work at a second job, you would have two lines written on the back of it. Both would have the name and adress of the institute and expirary date.
Once again "Permission to work" = E2 Visa
Check the stamps on your passport. |
No. You're wrong. My passport says" permission for engaging in activities not covered by the status of sojourn" |
Mine too!! I am glad I am not the only one to have this!!!
Thank you!!!!
Also, you use different forms for a visa and permission. |
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tzechuk
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Daechidong Waygookin
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| Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 8:57 pm Post subject: |
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| Semantics. In essence, they are the same thing. They have different names, and different forms but you have to apply for them. Without it, you cant teach. The F2 doesnt grant you the right to work. |
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quadra87
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jaykimf
Joined: 24 Apr 2004
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| Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 10:42 pm Post subject: |
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| Daechidong Waygookin wrote: |
| Semantics. In essence, they are the same thing. They have different names, and different forms but you have to apply for them. Without it, you cant teach. The F2 doesnt grant you the right to work. |
Semantics? Tzechuk's version is the one that is detailed on Immigration's website. Furthermore, if you reread her original post, she never said that the F2 granted the right to work. She specifically stated: "Once you have an F-2 visa, you just need to go back to the immigration and get *permission* to work. It's not really a visa but a work permit." She is correct. Are you ready to apoligize for saying she doesn't have a clue? |
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Daechidong Waygookin
Joined: 22 Nov 2004
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| Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2005 11:03 pm Post subject: |
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| jaykimf wrote: |
| Daechidong Waygookin wrote: |
| Semantics. In essence, they are the same thing. They have different names, and different forms but you have to apply for them. Without it, you cant teach. The F2 doesnt grant you the right to work. |
Semantics? Tzechuk's version is the one that is detailed on Immigration's website. Furthermore, if you reread her original post, she never said that the F2 granted the right to work. She specifically stated: "Once you have an F-2 visa, you just need to go back to the immigration and get *permission* to work. It's not really a visa but a work permit." She is correct. Are you ready to apoligize for saying she doesn't have a clue? |
I wont apologize because on my ARC it says E2. Its an F2-1 ARC card. How is it different? Its called "Permission to engage in activities not covered by the period of sojourn" but you apply for it pretty much like you apply for an E2. Oh wait, its a different form...wow! Whats the difference between this and the E2? All the F2 does is take the sponsorship part from under the umbrella of an E2 and puts it inder your F2. The work related stuff is still under the umbrella of the E2, ooops sorry, "permission.....". |
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casey's moon
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| Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 12:16 am Post subject: |
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| Daechidong Waygookin wrote: |
| Semantics. In essence, they are the same thing. They have different names, and different forms but you have to apply for them. Without it, you cant teach. The F2 doesnt grant you the right to work. |
She never said it did. Even if she was somewhat wrong (and there is no evidence that your interpretation is better than hers), she definitely had a clue.
Anyway, as you suggested, it doesn't really matter if it is a second visa or just permission -- we all know we need to go to immigration before we start a job, even if we have an F-2. No one ever said different, at least not on this thread. |
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casey's moon
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| Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 12:18 am Post subject: |
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| Daechidong Waygookin wrote: |
| Semantics. In essence, they are the same thing. They have different names, and different forms but you have to apply for them. Without it, you cant teach. The F2 doesnt grant you the right to work. |
Semantics? Tzechuk's version is the one that is detailed on Immigration's website. Furthermore, if you reread her original post, she never said that the F2 granted the right to work. She specifically stated: "Once you have an F-2 visa, you just need to go back to the immigration and get *permission* to work. It's not really a visa but a work permit." She is correct. Are you ready to apoligize for saying she doesn't have a clue? |
I don't believe that DW has ever apologised on this forum. DW can confirm or deny this, I guess -- but if he denies it, I hope he shows some proof.  |
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Daechidong Waygookin
Joined: 22 Nov 2004
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| casey's moon wrote: |
| jaykimf wrote: |
| Daechidong Waygookin wrote: |
| Semantics. In essence, they are the same thing. They have different names, and different forms but you have to apply for them. Without it, you cant teach. The F2 doesnt grant you the right to work. |
Semantics? Tzechuk's version is the one that is detailed on Immigration's website. Furthermore, if you reread her original post, she never said that the F2 granted the right to work. She specifically stated: "Once you have an F-2 visa, you just need to go back to the immigration and get *permission* to work. It's not really a visa but a work permit." She is correct. Are you ready to apoligize for saying she doesn't have a clue? |
I don't believe that DW has ever apologised on this forum. DW can confirm or deny this, I guess -- but if he denies it, I hope he shows some proof. |
You are correct. I have never apologized. |
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Kimchieluver
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tzechuck wrote
I only used the E2 visa application form when I first entered Korea on my Japan run. Since then I have been using the permission to work application and they always give me an E-2 Visa. Like I said before, it's probably up to the individual Immigration offices on what stamp they give you. Just because they don't write E2, doesn't mean that's not what you got. Furthermore, you are still only allowed to work at the adresses placed on the back of the card.
Like I said before, if you are legal, Kudos! |
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Kimchieluver
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| Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 4:09 am Post subject: |
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Yes I did fill out a permission to work application and have done so many times. I never filled out An E2 Visa application as that is what the application is supposed to give you.
I agree on one point. It's probably up to each individual office what stamps they use and what they put on your ARC
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jaykimf
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| Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 7:23 pm Post subject: |
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| Kimchieluver wrote: |
tzechuck wrote
I only used the E2 visa application form when I first entered Korea on my Japan run. Since then I have been using the permission to work application and they always give me an E-2 Visa. Like I said before, it's probably up to the individual Immigration offices on what stamp they give you. Just because they don't write E2, doesn't mean that's not what you got. Furthermore, you are still only allowed to work at the adresses placed on the back of the card.
Like I said before, if you are legal, Kudos! |
Years ago when I had an F-1 visa and first started to work, we went to immigration and they quite clearly explained that there were two distinct alternatives; go to Japan and apply for the E-2 or apply for the "permission to..." . I chose the latter. Of course that was an F-1 and the rules for F-2s might very well be different. However It seems perfectly plausable to me that there are two distinct alternatives with the F-2. If you are suggesting that I actually have an E-2 visa without even realizing it; that would mean that what is written on my ARC is wrong, The stamp in my passport is wrong, what the immigration officers told me is wrong, and what immigration's website says is wrong. I just don't buy it.
Furthermore, no one in this thread has even suggested anything other than that "you are still only allowed to work at the adresses placed on the back of the card." |
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Kimchieluver
Joined: 02 Mar 2005
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| Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2005 7:41 pm Post subject: |
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Point taken. However it should be noted that some people get E2 visas when the fill out the permission to work application and some don't. To say that you don't have to get an E2 visa was wrong. Some people get permission to work stamps, some people get E2 stamps (both by filling out the same form).
It's good to know that there are differences. I think this thread has served its purpose by now.
Cheers! |
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