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Kimchieluver
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| It's just plain old conformatism. |
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Yu_Bum_suk
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| Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2005 1:22 am Post subject: |
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| And just to be sure, this is a *public* school? It sounds more like public school in the 1950s British sense - only the latter at least produced original thinkers. |
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PolyChronic Time Girl
Joined: 15 Dec 2004
Location: Korea Exited
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| Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2005 2:39 am Post subject: |
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During one of my high school classes last year, so crazy mofo teacher with regular scissors interrupted my class, not even apologizing or asking if he could, and made the boys stand in a line and chopped their sideburns and the length in the back. Any student he found with "inappropriate" length was also smacked upside the head. This teacher is their homeroom teacher, and from what I gather, hits them insensibly at times.
After the teacher left, the students really dissed the guy, saying what an a**hole he is. I let the students vent and didn't even stand up for the teacher. The students were really angry about this, telling me how they are planning to kill him at home or when he's walking to the parking lot alone. It got a little scary with how elaborate their plans were getting during this conversation, saying which weapon would be best, a chinese sword or hot iron.
Teachers like this guy have got to change their attitude...because I think it's only gonna be a matter of time before a study-stressed student suddenly snaps.(hey, those last five words can be a tongue twister for tomorrow's class!) |
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Yu_Bum_suk
Joined: 25 Dec 2004
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| Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2005 4:56 pm Post subject: |
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| PolyChronic Time Girl wrote: |
During one of my high school classes last year, so crazy mofo teacher with regular scissors interrupted my class, not even apologizing or asking if he could, and made the boys stand in a line and chopped their sideburns and the length in the back. Any student he found with "inappropriate" length was also smacked upside the head. This teacher is their homeroom teacher, and from what I gather, hits them insensibly at times.
After the teacher left, the students really dissed the guy, saying what an a**hole he is. I let the students vent and didn't even stand up for the teacher. The students were really angry about this, telling me how they are planning to kill him at home or when he's walking to the parking lot alone. It got a little scary with how elaborate their plans were getting during this conversation, saying which weapon would be best, a chinese sword or hot iron.
Teachers like this guy have got to change their attitude...because I think it's only gonna be a matter of time before a study-stressed student suddenly snaps.(hey, those last five words can be a tongue twister for tomorrow's class!) |
If they put as much effort into getting the kids to pay attention you might even have a nation with more English speakers than nerds. |
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mithridates
Joined: 03 Mar 2003
Location: President's office, Korean Space Agency
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| Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2005 5:06 pm Post subject: |
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| It's just a tool to enforce conformity. Thank Park Jung Hee for that. |
If that isn't the height of irony, I don't know what is. |
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hellofaniceguy
Joined: 10 Jan 2003
Location: On your computer screen!
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| Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2005 7:57 pm Post subject: |
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| PolyChronic Time Girl wrote: |
During one of my high school classes last year, so crazy mofo teacher with regular scissors interrupted my class, not even apologizing or asking if he could, and made the boys stand in a line and chopped their sideburns and the length in the back. Any student he found with "inappropriate" length was also smacked upside the head. This teacher is their homeroom teacher, and from what I gather, hits them insensibly at times.
After the teacher left, the students really dissed the guy, saying what an a**hole he is. I let the students vent and didn't even stand up for the teacher. The students were really angry about this, telling me how they are planning to kill him at home or when he's walking to the parking lot alone. It got a little scary with how elaborate their plans were getting during this conversation, saying which weapon would be best, a chinese sword or hot iron.
Teachers like this guy have got to change their attitude...because I think it's only gonna be a matter of time before a study-stressed student suddenly snaps.(hey, those last five words can be a tongue twister for tomorrow's class!) |
And WHY did you allow it to happen? Stand around and do nothing but now write about it?
Those who know me...remember yeras ago when a korean teacher did the same thing to some students at the publich school I was also teaching at...the KT smacked around many of the students, both boys and girls at this high school. I did something...I smacked the teacher upside his head two times in front of all the teachers in the teachers room just after we were done facing the flag for the morning pledge. And l'll tell you this...NOT a single teacher came to his aid. This teacher was the PE/Gym teacher...many teachers and students were scared of him. That was my third in the EPIK program and was not asked to return. Fine with me anyway....smacking students is NOT teaching. Nor is hair cutting. And all of you who see this behavior going on and just watch it happen are just as bad. |
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gmat
Joined: 29 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2005 8:47 pm Post subject: |
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| I agree that it is exceedingly stupid, but I believe Derrick works at a Private school. If the students and parents don't like the rules at that school they should go elsewhere. |
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PolyChronic Time Girl
Joined: 15 Dec 2004
Location: Korea Exited
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| Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2005 9:29 pm Post subject: |
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Hellofaniceguy...yeah, real smart....all 154cm of me is going to smack a crazed Korean male teacher upside the head! Glad that method worked for you, but reality is most foreigners can't get away with that (Read the Two Canadians Charged with Assault thread) And I didn't just 'stand around'...I made a huge complaint with the department but of course it was all in vain. I guess I should've wrote that in my post, so I could've prevented sanctimonious bores like you to preach about it.  |
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crazylemongirl
Joined: 23 Mar 2003
Location: almost there...
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| Posted: Sun Mar 27, 2005 9:42 pm Post subject: |
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| Why don't we do anything? because in the end it's not our place to tell other teachers how to run the school it's the job of politicans, beareaucrats and parents. Like it or not w are guests here. We are hired to teach english not lecture koreans on how best to run their education system. |
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SarcasmKills
Joined: 07 Apr 2003
Location: Seoul
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It's more about the class being in harmony with one another than it is conformity...
Confusician thinking.. that's all..
hard to erase thousands of years of influence in just over 50 years my friends.. |
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mishlert
Joined: 13 Mar 2003
Location: On the 3rd rock from the sun
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| As far as I know, it's not an encouraged practice. In fact, it runs against the CRC (Children Rights Convention), which the South Korean governement ratified in 1991 . Simply put, it is disrespectful of the students' right to self-determination. |
Anyone who works at schools, or hogwans that try to control the students by making them cut/ dye their hair, check their nails, and other such things, should get a copy of the CRC in Korean and show it to the other teachers, school principal, and hogwan owners.
I wonder what kind of reaction you'd get? Whatever it is, I'm sure it would be priceless. |
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OneWayTraffic
Joined: 14 Mar 2005
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| Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2005 7:46 pm Post subject: |
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| PolyChronic Time Girl wrote: |
| Hellofaniceguy...yeah, real smart....all 154cm of me is going to smack a crazed Korean male teacher upside the head! Glad that method worked for you, but reality is most foreigners can't get away with that (Read the Two Canadians Charged with Assault thread) And I didn't just 'stand around'...I made a huge complaint with the department but of course it was all in vain. I guess I should've wrote that in my post, so I could've prevented sanctimonious bores like you to preach about it. |
I'm not going to preach but the advice just above my post is great. Except I wouldn't give it to the staff; I'd give it to the students. Most of them don't know what their rights are. Give it to the students and tell them to post details of this on government bulletin boards etc. |
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thorin
Joined: 14 Apr 2003
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| Could Derrick be any more wrapped up in the pressing social issues facing middle school girls? Fucking hilarious. |
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Bozo Yoroshiku
Joined: 23 Feb 2005
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| Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2005 9:03 pm Post subject: |
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| hellofaniceguy wrote: |
| remember yeras ago when a korean teacher did the same thing to some students at the publich school I was also teaching at...the KT smacked around many of the students, both boys and girls at this high school. I did something...I smacked the teacher upside his head two times in front of all the teachers in the teachers room just after we were done facing the flag for the morning pledge. |
I stood up for my students in the (very) brief stint I did in a country middle school. Teacher kicked a boy in the nads, so I kinda lost it on him. I was fired within the hour for "disrepecting his authority in the classroom". Whatever. The uproar my firing caused (moms wondered why the foreign "hero" was fired and the teacher brutalizing their children was still there) was the lynch pin to get the ass fired. This was about 8 years ago when NOBODY was fired for this sort of thing.
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Hollywoodaction
Joined: 02 Jul 2004
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| Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2005 9:39 pm Post subject: |
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| It's just a tool to enforce conformity. Thank Park Jung Hee for that. |
If that isn't the height of irony, I don't know what is. |
Thank you. |
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