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bucheon bum



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 4:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

is it? I could be wrong about the gobi.. But it definitly was across a desert before he reached the himalyas. He was way out near the China-Pakistan border at the time and couldn't go through india to make it a shorter journey.
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mithridates



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 6:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hank Scorpio wrote:
igotthisguitar wrote:

For whatever reason, the UN clearly concluded Korea was far more of a priority than a Buddhist Kingdom spread out across the rooftop of the world.


One of the reasons is that, as always, the UN's army is the US army. Beyond that, they really have no substantive forces. We had the means to go into Korea because we had control of Japan. Not so with Tibet, because the only real point of entry and country that could be used as a staging area was India, which has throughout it's history taken the fairly cowardly and unprincipled stance of being "unaligned", so defending Tibet was a nonstarter, because without India on board it just wouldn't be possible.


Didn't Indian troops die in the Korean War?
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VanIslander



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 02, 2005 8:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bucheon bum wrote:
is it? I could be wrong about the gobi.. But it definitly was across a desert before he reached the himalyas. He was way out near the China-Pakistan border at the time and couldn't go through india to make it a shorter journey.

It was probably across the southern part of the huge Taklimakan Desert.

The Gobi is mostly arid grasslands at the Mongolian border, geographically north in latitude of Beijing!
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igotthisguitar



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 24, 2005 1:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nun or prostitute? Tibet's women face few choices
By Lindsay Beck
Thu Aug 18, 8:25 AM ET

SHIGATSE, China Shocked (Reuters) - It's evening in Shigatse and the lights are coming on.

In the Chinese district of the Tibetan mountain town, strings of twinkling lights flicker around rows of shopfronts where women perch waiting for customers and men stumble out from backroom corridors.

"There are a lot of prostitutes here. They're all from the countryside. Maybe they don't have parents to look after them or anything else to do," says Jirga, an 18-year-old vendor.

Hundreds of miles away in a nunnery in Tibet's capital, Lhasa, a group of young Buddhist nuns sit stitching yards of maroon cloth into the robes that are the iconic uniform of the clergy.

"The life here is very good. If I wasn't doing this, I'd probably be a farmer," said nun Ani La, 30, speaking over the din of a thunderstorm that rolled in from the mountains.

The Lhasa nuns and the prostitutes of Shigatse may have little in common on the surface, but both are part of the same demographic group -- young, rural, Tibetan women -- and analysts say their ranks are growing.

As development draws herders and farmers to towns in search of wage labor, Tibet's women find themselves with few choices and little know-how for getting by in a market economy.

"Often where there is a concentration of nuns there is concentration of sex workers. The same forces are drawing young women away from villages," said Charlene Makely, a Tibet specialist at Reed College in the U.S. state of Oregon.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20050818/lf_nm/china_tibet_women_dc;_ylt=AqliOaNSWhDdGOFb0K2c5l1KTb8F;_ylu=X3oDMTA4b3FrcXQ0BHNlYwMxNjkz
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igotthisguitar



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 12:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Faith in Exile: The Lesson of Tibet (2004)
http://www.archive.org/details/tibet_gnn

For the last half-century, the Tibetan people have endured the brunt of some of the Chinese government's most brutal policies. In the 1990's, an international activist movement, which attracted a small army of A-list celebrities, brought the Tibetan struggle to the mainstream. But since 9/11, Tibet has all but disappeared from the front page.

September 11th was a tragedy for the American people, but it was a boon for totalitarian regimes around the world. In the pursuit of its so-called "war on terror", the United States has forged military alliances and inked trade deals with some of the world's most repressive regimes.

On September 13, 2001 China was quietly admitted to the World Trade Organization, and given perpetual Most Favored Nation status by U.S., despite the fact the country is one of the world's worst human rights abusers.

With its economy booming, China has become desperate to exploit Tibet's vast mineral and fuel reserves - and that has meant keeping a tight grip on any moves towards Tibetan autonomy. Arrests, torture and destruction of local culture continue despite the tireless work of Tibetan exiles and their high-profile western allies. In fact, the situation grows more dire by the day. Yet unlike an increasing number of indigenous liberation movements, Tibetans have not resorted to violence to achieve their goals.

In Faith in Exile, GNN asks, "Does the non-violent resistance of the Tibetan people provide a valuable lesson for a world in turmoil?"

http://www.archive.org/download/tibet_gnn/tibet_bb.mov

Director: Anthony Lappé
Producer: Josh Shore
Production Company: Guerrilla News Network
Audio/Visual: sound, color
Keywords: Tibet; human rights; Dalai Lama
Contact Information: www.gnn.tv
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fiveeagles



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 03, 2005 1:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have read many books on how thousands of Christians are killed by the Chinese government every year. This is mostly neglected by the western media.

In a war driven world, the dalai lama will continue to increase in authority. I wouldn't be surprised if Buddhism breaks Communisms back. What I mean is, I could see Russia and China becoming more tolerant of Buddhism and incorporating it into it's philosphy.
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sundubuman



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 03, 2005 7:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's interesting to contrast the differences in coverage between the Tibetans and the Palestinians.

Tibetans have their own language, distinct history, culture and even creation myths.

The Palestinians have none of these and began calling themselves Palestinian only some 38 years ago. Their culture and language are no different from neighboring Arabs.

Yet the coverage of "Palestine" is what?, 10,000 times as intense as the coverage of Tibet.

Wonder why? Maybe if Tibetans would just blow up 200,000 Chinese on busses and in restaurants (that would be the equivalent of how many Israelis have perished in the last intifada) then they would get the international legitimacy so rightfully garnered by the "Palestinians".

Sadly for the Tibetans, they are too cerebral for such fame and glory.
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Ya-ta Boy



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 03, 2005 5:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
In a war driven world, the dalai lama will continue to increase in authority.


I'm curious about the thinking behind this statement.
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robitusson



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 03, 2005 8:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sundubuman wrote:
It's interesting to contrast the differences in coverage between the Tibetans and the Palestinians.

Tibetans have their own language, distinct history, culture and even creation myths.

The Palestinians have none of these and began calling themselves Palestinian only some 38 years ago. Their culture and language are no different from neighboring Arabs.

Yet the coverage of "Palestine" is what?, 10,000 times as intense as the coverage of Tibet.

Wonder why? Maybe if Tibetans would just blow up 200,000 Chinese on busses and in restaurants (that would be the equivalent of how many Israelis have perished in the last intifada) then they would get the international legitimacy so rightfully garnered by the "Palestinians".

Sadly for the Tibetans, they are too cerebral for such fame and glory.


If 200, 000 Chinese would have to die to get an equivalent then I suppose that would mean 600, 000 Tibetans would have to be killed by Apache helicopters, bulldozers and snipers then. That would make it the equivalent of the "Israeli" situation then, wouldn't it?
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TheUrbanMyth



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 03, 2005 8:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sundubuman wrote:
It's interesting to contrast the differences in coverage between the Tibetans and the Palestinians.

Tibetans have their own language, distinct history, culture and even creation myths.

The Palestinians have none of these and began calling themselves Palestinian only some 38 years ago. Their culture and language are no different from neighboring Arabs.

Yet the coverage of "Palestine" is what?, 10,000 times as intense as the coverage of Tibet.

Wonder why? Maybe if Tibetans would just blow up 200,000 Chinese on busses and in restaurants (that would be the equivalent of how many Israelis have perished in the last intifada) then they would get the international legitimacy so rightfully garnered by the "Palestinians".

Sadly for the Tibetans, they are too cerebral for such fame and glory.



It is more likely that the Chinese will not show the same restraint employed by the Israelis. At least the Israelis have some regard for world opinion. The Chinese would probably wipe out the Tibetan population in retaliation.
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robitusson



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PostPosted: Sat Dec 03, 2005 9:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheUrbanMyth wrote:
sundubuman wrote:
It's interesting to contrast the differences in coverage between the Tibetans and the Palestinians.

Tibetans have their own language, distinct history, culture and even creation myths.

The Palestinians have none of these and began calling themselves Palestinian only some 38 years ago. Their culture and language are no different from neighboring Arabs.

Yet the coverage of "Palestine" is what?, 10,000 times as intense as the coverage of Tibet.

Wonder why? Maybe if Tibetans would just blow up 200,000 Chinese on busses and in restaurants (that would be the equivalent of how many Israelis have perished in the last intifada) then they would get the international legitimacy so rightfully garnered by the "Palestinians".

Sadly for the Tibetans, they are too cerebral for such fame and glory.




It is more likely that the Chinese will not show the same restraint employed by the Israelis. At least the Israelis have some regard for world opinion. The Chinese would probably wipe out the Tibetan population in retaliation.


Different colonialists, different methods of dealing with those irritating indigenous people.
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sundubuman



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2005 3:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

More lies to smear Israel.

The Arabs colonized Israel, the Jews returned.

And there are 250,000,000 Arabs. The Palestinians are a fiction deeply embedded into many minds.

They are, as "a people" wholly indistinguishable from neighboring Arabs, except for their slightly increased anti-semitism perhaps.
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robitusson



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 05, 2005 4:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good point, good point. Let's repatriate every non-Native North-American citizen, every non-Native South American citizen back to Europe, Asia and Africa, remove all non-aboriginal Australians back to Asia and Europe too and then reinstate the Roman Empire. Then "Israel" will be back among her original peers.
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sundubuman



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 05, 2005 6:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your grasp of the situation is rather weak. There are well over 1 million Arab Muslims living in Israel. Whereas Jews aren't even allowed to live in Saudi Arabia.

Arabs have spread to controal a VAST area from Morocco to Iraq. And Israel, although it could ethnically cleanse Arabs from territories it controls, has not done that, so far.

Why is the world less concerned with Tibet, a real nation under colonization,
than it is with "Palestine" a non-country surrounded by millions of square miles of Arab lands???
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robitusson



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2005 3:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe the Saudi Arabians are afraid if they let Jews into the country an imaginary being who lives in the sky will tell them it's actually their country and not the people who've been living there for hundreds of generations? Hmmm..... In answer to your question I think the world is more concerned with Palestine than "Israel" becuase of the strong connection between "Israelis" and America and Western Europe. Also the fact that there's a bloody war going on helps shift newspapers. I don't know how you can tell what my grasp of the situation is. Anyway I don't want to go round in circles with this. It's precisely because nobody will admit fault and accept responsabilty in the Middle East that the problems reoccur.
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