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Mashimaro
Joined: 31 Jan 2003
Location: location, location
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Tomato, I sympathise somewhat with your problem. It bugs me if people persist in speaking english with me, but it very rarely happens. Why does it happen to you and not me?
I've thought about it and of course it would be unfair to say it's not a problem for me so it shouldn't be a problem for you. Factors in my favor are living in Seoul (I believe you don't) and living in an area with quite a few foreigners who are studying korean.
I will put it back on you. Why do you think my friends and I for the most part don't have a problem with this? Is it because we are not english teachers? Once koreans find out you are a teacher do they automatically want to leach you for english? who knows..
One last question. If you could sit down with a korean who had earlier refused to speak korean with you, what would you say to them (In korean) to try and make them understand your point of view? |
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Homer
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Geez Tomato,
I learned Korean and found plenty of people to practice with who did not switch to English on me....different people different experiences I suppose.
I did encounter a few Koreans who switched to English but what can you do? You just roll with it.
It is not partonizing (in my opinion). It is more a slight annoyance of the occasional kind.
How did I find places to practice?
I started getting involved in my neighborhood activities. I joined a couple of clubs and the gym. I play changi in the nearby park with the old Korean dudes every sunday for a couple of hours. I have my in-laws to speak Korean with (lucky thing for me here) and the store keepers in my area who, after a couple of times figured I was trying to learn Korean and stopped trying to speak English to me.
They tried to speak English to me either to practice or to be kind because they assumed that I did not speak Korean (a fair assumption considering that most foreigners don't speak Korean (this is normal)).
Complaining is a good thing when, in my opinion it is:
a) Constructive and leads to something positive.
b) Valid |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994
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| Posted: Tue May 03, 2005 2:33 am Post subject: |
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| but you have the "Quote" and the "/Quote" in the wrong places. Until you correct that mistake, I won't get a wink of sleep. |
I feel your pain, tomato. I saw the problem when I previewed my post, but short of deleting everything and starting over, I didn't know what to do about it. So I said, "The heck with it", clicked submit and went to bed. My guilt was so bad that I woke up at 3:30am. I really don't like people who quote themselves at length.
Looks like a long afternoon nap will have to suffice today. Life can be rough. |
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jajdude
Joined: 18 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Tue May 03, 2005 12:21 pm Post subject: |
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Complaining is fun. Look at me, I'm a complainer.  |
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peony
Joined: 30 Mar 2005
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a lot of times i've found that koreans feel uncomfortable speaking korean with foreigners ... may be the reason?
i certainly feel uncomfortable sometimes speaking english with koreans. especially if i dont know them well enough to know their level of english comprehension and this by no means at all condescending on my part, heck i can speak korean and make things easier for all, whats the big deal? |
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Leslie Cheswyck
Joined: 31 May 2003
Location: University of Western Chile
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| Posted: Tue May 03, 2005 3:15 pm Post subject: |
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Demophobe
Joined: 17 May 2004
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Sorry, I guess I've been posting on here for so long that I get a bit jaded, and seeing the same subjects cropping up from the same posters just gets old. |
Good to see you are doing something about it then. More quips and snappy answers shold stop this nonsense soon enough.
I think it's fine to complain once and a while. As we are all in the same (or at least similar) boat, we should take more time with each other and put forth the effort to understand and on those bad days, pick each other up a bit.
Although we aren't all "friends" in the traditional sense, we "know" each other to a certain degree and I for one, know that some people have a stronger disposition to whinge than others. To those who seem to do it a lot, just don't click that particular post. To the people like Tomato, who post infrequently and very rarely complain, let them get it out. Why not?
Why rail against each other, especially when the OP may have a valid point and one which has probably dug into every one of us on occasion as well?
I think it's healthy to vent a bit sometimes. If this isn't a place where one can do it, then where is? |
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Daechidong Waygookin
Joined: 22 Nov 2004
Location: No Longer on Dave's. Ive quit.
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| Posted: Tue May 03, 2005 3:57 pm Post subject: |
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Re: complaining.
Look at my sig.
NOW STOP COMPLAINING! |
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tomato
Joined: 31 Jan 2003
Location: I get so little foreign language experience, I must be in Koreatown, Los Angeles.
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