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flakfizer
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| tomato wrote: |
As long as the Bible is inconsistent, believers in the Bible can be inconsistent.
"God rains on the just and the unjust," but "All things work together for the good of those who glorify God." |
The Bible also says, "Honor your father and mother." and "Love your neighbor as yourself." as well as, "If anyone comes to me and does not hate his father and mother, his wife and children, his brothers and sisters-yes, even his own life-he cannot be my disciple." But these are not contradictions when understood in context. This is the problem with non-believers trying to explain God-they're trying to explain something they don't believe in and usually try to make the idea of God look silly or unbelievable (since He is unbelieved in by them). Now, as for the problems that occur when believers try too hard to explain God and/or His actions...see next post. |
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flakfizer
Joined: 12 Nov 2004
Location: scaling the Cliffs of Insanity with a frayed rope.
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| mindmetoo wrote: |
Bus full of Christians crashes and people die. "They must have been very good Christians and God was calling them home!"
Bus full of homosexuals crashes and people die. "They were evil and this is a warning from God!"
Yep. |
This is the kind of problem that occurs when some believers try to explain God's actions (or inacations). If any Christian believed in both of those statements, or even just the latter one, they are extremely foolish. Jesus many times showed that tragedy is not necessarily connected to sin. He healed a blind man that his disciples had assumed was blind because either he had sinned or his parents had. Jesus said neither had. He also referred to an incident in which a tower fell and killed 18 people saying, "Or those eighteen who died when the tower of Siloam fell on them-do you think they were more guilty than all the others living in Jerusalem? I tell you no! But unless you repent, you too will all perish."
Remember when James and John asked Jesus if he wanted them to pray for the destruction of people who were not receptive to Jesus? Jesus rebuked them harshly for having such a thought.
I understand that sometimes, people want God to explain himself, but He often doesn't and when people try to eplain His actions, they are being a bit presumptuous. In our ultra-scientific times we tend to beleive that everything can be explained-but not everything can be. For some, God's mind and actions can never be explained enough to their liking and so they reject the idea of God altogether. For others, God's mind and actions can be explained enough that they are willing to incorporate that which cannot be explained into their faith. Both groups would do well to avoid explaining what they know in their hearts they cannot explain. |
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