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deessell
Joined: 08 Jun 2005
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I sympathise with your very difficult situation. I think you need to make it clear that when you signed your contract it was on the basis of having 2 weeks summer vacation. I suggest you "invent" a serious reason for needing this vacation. It is imperative that you have these two weeks and that you have been planning since last year. Maybe a health problem and surgery. I personally don't think it is a good think to start doing the "work to rule thing" you could find that it backfires.
In situations like this, I always take the easy road and lie!
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bourquetheman
Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: Suwon
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| Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2005 8:11 pm Post subject: |
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Well I appreciate everyone's advice. There are a couple of good things that came out of this:
A) They are allowing me to do a 4 day camp (only requiring 2 days off of school as it is on the weekend partially.
B) They are now not counting those two days for the camp as myvacation, so in essence I get 9 days off and not just 7.
Anyway that is that. I don't forsee me signing here for a 3rd year and I will gladly tell them come re-signing time that misunderstanding and miscommunication is the reason why. |
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Mr. Pink
Joined: 21 Oct 2003
Location: China
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| Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2005 10:29 pm Post subject: |
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| bourquetheman wrote: |
Well an update.
My head supervisor (boojangnim) called my wife tonight (she's not confident about her own English, so she can talk to my wife who is Korean) and explained how she waited after school for an hour to talk to the principal (gee I'm supposed to feel sorry for her?) and that they simply could not allow two weeks in one chunk. She mentioned how she talked to my old supervisor and that it was SHE who misunderstood about that possibility and put it in the contract incorrectly. She said that the Education supervisor is VERY STRICT about this and that if they allowed it they could get in trouble. What really pisses me off is that they should have more say about it in my opinion as I was hired directly by them and and NOT GEPIK. Still the government helps fund my salary and apartment so ultimately I guess they have to play by their rules.
If I bring up the contract I will look like a hypocrite my wife thinks as I came in late during exams so I too didn't "follow the contract". Fine I guess I'll play by their rules but I'm going to tell her tomorrow that I'm going to "take the weekend to think about what I'm going to do" and I can't wait to see the look on her face when I tell her that. I also don't really expect to get paid for these classes either but I will ask nonetheless. They had written a special clause into the contract saying that "in certain cases per the principals' discretion I maybe paid for the extra classes. " I was paid for the winter ones but my old supervisor says I shouldn't expect, nor should I ask after all of this has gone down. I will anyway, what the hell.
The funny thing is the Chinese teacher and I are both pissed off about our situations and we jokingly said to each other wouldn't it be funny if we both told them we quit? GOOD LUCK IN AUGUST!! Ha ha ha.....as we are the only two foreigners in the school. |
My advice:
Get yourself an F-2-1 visa.
After that point, you can pretty much tell them you don't care what the educational director says...its in your contract, and if they don't like it you quit. F-2-1 means you don't need a release paper, you just go tell immigration you quit.
Then find another job. Honestly, you will probably get paid more working at a hawgwon.
One of the perks of me working in a high school is the 2months vacation a year. Otherwise hawgwons aren't THAT much different. |
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bourquetheman
Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: Suwon
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| Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2005 11:15 pm Post subject: |
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Good in theory, in fact I do have an F-2-1 visa but quitting for me means my apartment is gone which is 23 pyong and good for my wife and daughter. It sucks when you don't have a place of your own, because yes otherwise I probably would quit. One of the best perks of the job is the apartment, which was a big reason why I left my university position after 3.5 years. There the apartment was smaller, cost 600 000 won a month and couldn't accomodate all our furniture.
Anyway my next goal is to eventually get a place of our own so we aren't at the mercy of where ever I work for housing. |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired
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| Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2005 6:12 pm Post subject: |
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Wigam4,
Most people in ESL in Korea are in it for the short term, so there really is no short term pain for long term gain.
Also, there's a reason why Koreans are basically known as the "Yellow N*iggers" of Asia; they are internationally famous for being highly skilled liars and cheats. They can be very nice on a social level, but in any kind of work or business relationship you really need to watch your back. Their word doesn't count for very much.
They are famous for signing contracts and then later coming back and saying parts of it were a "mistake" when they feel that it works to their advantage.
You have to deal very firmly with the Koreans, the same way a cop has to deal with a criminal; try to be nice and they will try to walk all over you.
I don't live in Korea any more, but when dealing with Koreans these are the things you need to know. |
Any reason you are outing yourself as a racist? Not only content with maligning Koreans you are also attacking black people. Basically you are saying black people do the same as Koreans. |
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hari seldon
Joined: 05 Dec 2004
Location: Incheon
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| Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2005 7:57 pm Post subject: |
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| Paddycakes wrote: |
Wigam4,
Most people in ESL in Korea are in it for the short term, so there really is no short term pain for long term gain.
Also, there's a reason why Koreans are basically known as the "Yellow N*iggers" of Asia; they are internationally famous for being highly skilled liars and cheats. They can be very nice on a social level, but in any kind of work or business relationship you really need to watch your back. Their word doesn't count for very much.
They are famous for signing contracts and then later coming back and saying parts of it were a "mistake" when they feel that it works to their advantage.
You have to deal very firmly with the Koreans, the same way a cop has to deal with a criminal; try to be nice and they will try to walk all over you.
I don't live in Korea any more, but when dealing with Koreans these are the things you need to know. |
Any reason you are outing yourself as a racist? Not only content with maligning Koreans you are also attacking black people. Basically you are saying black people do the same as Koreans. |
It is unfair to compare black folk to Koreans. They don't have a reputation for being liars. |
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