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indiercj
Joined: 30 Jan 2003
Location: Seoul
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| Freezer Burn wrote: |
Wow there are some bittchy people here, SO what I dont know Korean, the footage I saw which obviously was not the full footage showed curious onlookers looking over the edge and NOT doing anything.
Maybe you should not jump down peoples throats for not learning Korean, and maybe corrected me by saying that someone did save him, I would've said thanks for correcting me.
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Your answer made me think again.
I now understand your anger. The anger that comes from not understanding the language, not knowing the facts and thus the pain of making a fool of yourself. I apologize for not having treated you as a lost child in a distant land which is exactly what you should have deserved. I admit I have been a little too harsh on you. My thoughts were too short. Sorry for that.
PS. Quel domage, a little more of Korean and you will be able to share some wisdom of yours with us. Quel domage. |
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Pyongshin Sangja
Joined: 20 Apr 2003
Location: I love baby!
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| Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 6:51 pm Post subject: |
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It's "Quelle dommage," genius.
What would it matter if we did speak Korean? People here would still call us kojengi, doong duaeji and oeguknom just like they do every single day of the year. Don't tell me I'm wrong. The very very first time I walked into a store in Korea, a man walked in behind me and screamed "Gaijin!"
That left an impression.
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| Sorry, but I am sick and tired of some incomplete information and false impressions thrown thoughout this board. |
We get carried away after reading all the incomplete information and false impressions (not to mention rabid hatred of foreigners) in the Korean "newspapers." It just seems like the thing to do here.
And, there are subway pushers here. It's just not publicised when it occurs. If you think this doesn't happen, you're naive. |
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mithridates
Joined: 03 Mar 2003
Location: President's office, Korean Space Agency
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| Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 7:03 pm Post subject: |
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No, there's no need to learn Korean or not. Blind man falls down and no one helps = blind man's probably still there. That's impossible. Obviously someone pulled him up.
Quel Domage is a rock band. |
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Freezer Burn
Joined: 11 Apr 2005
Location: Busan
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| Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 7:21 pm Post subject: |
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Again sheesh, the footage I saw there was no pull-up, it reported people looking over the edge doing nothing!
From what I saw it didn't look as if the guy was going to get rescued.
Im not going to learn Korean, I dont want to make this my home, and Im sure if I did learn Korean all I would hear is the hatred they feel for white men or the lust they feel for white women.
A blind man not being rescued from certain death from a population that believes in fan death does not surprise me. |
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chronicpride
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 8:21 pm Post subject: |
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| With juvenile and prejudicial bigotry like that, expect to get the stinging retorts that will make your frown hang even lower. Suck it up. |
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Bulsajo
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 8:31 pm Post subject: |
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| indiercj wrote: |
Your answer made me think again.
I now understand your anger. The anger that comes from not understanding the language, not knowing the facts and thus the pain of making a fool of yourself. I apologize for not having treated you as a lost child in a distant land which is exactly what you should have deserved. I admit I have been a little too harsh on you. My thoughts were too short. Sorry for that.
PS. Quel domage, a little more of Korean and you will be able to share some wisdom of yours with us. Quel domage. |
Post of the week.
Jackass of the week
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| What would it matter if we did speak Korean? |
Pyongshin of the week. |
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Freezer Burn
Joined: 11 Apr 2005
Location: Busan
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| Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 9:12 pm Post subject: |
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That stings mate, Im off to cry into my soju |
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indiercj
Joined: 30 Jan 2003
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 9:17 pm Post subject: |
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| Pyongshin Sangja wrote: |
| It's "Quelle dommage," genius. |
Yeah, I guess you are right. Sorry ByongShin.
| Pyongshin Sangja wrote: |
What would it matter if we did speak Korean? People here would still call us kojengi, doong duaeji and oeguknom just like they do every single day of the year. Don't tell me I'm wrong. The very very first time I walked into a store in Korea, a man walked in behind me and screamed "Gaijin!"
That left an impression. |
Koreans don't call the foreigners "Gaijin". It's "WaeGookIn", genius.
And ByongShin, I'm not sure why a racist punk in US or elsewhere would make me stop learning English. After all learning their language would only help me understand what the historical and social backgrounds for these phenomena really are.
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| We get carried away after reading all the incomplete information and false impressions (not to mention rabid hatred of foreigners) in the Korean "newspapers." It just seems like the thing to do here. |
ByongShin, you can't even try to read between the lines if you can't read in the first place.
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| And, there are subway pushers here. It's just not publicised when it occurs. If you think this doesn't happen, you're naive. |
Maybe. But, link please.
Have a nice day. ByongShin.  |
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bucheon bum
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 10:49 pm Post subject: |
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Again sheesh, the footage I saw there was no pull-up, it reported people looking over the edge doing nothing!
From what I saw it didn't look as if the guy was going to get rescued.
Im not going to learn Korean, I dont want to make this my home, and Im sure if I did learn Korean all I would hear is the hatred they feel for white men or the lust they feel for white women.
A blind man not being rescued from certain death from a population that believes in fan death does not surprise me. |
and why are you in korea again? |
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Freezer Burn
Joined: 11 Apr 2005
Location: Busan
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| Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 12:20 am Post subject: |
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| To get to my next destination, I actually thought I would enjoy my time here, I enjoyed China. |
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dogbert
Joined: 29 Jan 2003
Location: Killbox 90210
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| Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 12:36 am Post subject: |
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| From what I've seen, the Chinese are even less good Samaritans than the Koreans. |
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Pyongshin Sangja
Joined: 20 Apr 2003
Location: I love baby!
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| Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 6:03 am Post subject: |
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Pyongshin Sangja wrote:
It's "Quelle dommage," genius.
Yeah, I guess you are right. Sorry ByongShin. |
No, I'm correcting your spelling. You're telling me which system of romanisation to use. It sounds more like a P than a B to a native speaker of English, it's the old system of romanisation and it's more accurate sometimes. In fact, you even used the old system when you wrote "shin" rather than "sin." Ubbuh cousuh, weee couduh alwaeesuh taku in Konguhlisee. And, oh yeah, You Can't CaPiTaLise EVeRy SyLlABle in a Word.
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Pyongshin Sangja wrote:
What would it matter if we did speak Korean? People here would still call us kojengi, doong duaeji and oeguknom just like they do every single day of the year. Don't tell me I'm wrong. The very very first time I walked into a store in Korea, a man walked in behind me and screamed "Gaijin!"
That left an impression.
Koreans don't call the foreigners "Gaijin". It's "WaeGookIn", genius. |
Right, your Japanese masters call white people "Gaijin." You get to be "Chosunjin." Gaijin doesn't translate to white person, it means waegooknom. So you would be a Chosun-nom, at least as far as you say.
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| And ByongShin, I'm not sure why a racist punk in US or elsewhere would make me stop learning English. After all learning their language would only help me understand what the historical and social backgrounds for these phenomena really are. |
It wasn't just him, he was the first of many. And he wasn't a punk, he was about 50. I don't need to learn a language to learn the roots of racism, I've seen "Triumph of the Will." Have you? I doubt it.
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Pyongshin Sangja wrote:
We get carried away after reading all the incomplete information and false impressions (not to mention rabid hatred of foreigners) in the Korean "newspapers." It just seems like the thing to do here.
ByongShin, you can't even try to read between the lines if you can't read in the first place. |
You can't even begin to have rational discussions if you get your information from the Korean media. Read between the lines? The lines that preach hatred of foreigners? The lines that are censored by the Ministry of Information? The lines that are purchased in newspapers by companies plugging their products? It's blatant what's going on.
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Pyongshin Sangja wrote:
And, there are subway pushers here. It's just not publicised when it occurs. If you think this doesn't happen, you're naive.
Maybe. But, link please. |
Use your head, it would be impossible for it not to happen sometimes. Oh, sorry, independent thinking. You're Korean. My bad.
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| Have a nice day. ByongShin. |
You too, PuDdy. |
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The Bobster
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 8:13 am Post subject: |
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| I'm not sure why a racist punk in US or elsewhere would make me stop learning English. After all learning their language would only help me understand what the historical and social backgrounds for these phenomena really are. |
Best response I've seen in one of these threads in years. Kaching! to indiercj, kudos, and, by why of what a good friend of mine refers to as reference to porn terminology, definitely a "money shot."
In a nutshell, you've got one guy saying he experiences and observes racism in a culture (declines to say which culture such things are absent from) and uses that observation as a reason not to learn the language and hence leran more about the culture ... The other guy - the "money shot" dude - asserts that just such an experience affords a greater reason to learn the language and try to understand the roots of the very racism that has offended him so.
Racism is ignorance, distilled and sold to anyone who will buy it at the cheapest price that can be arranged, and that price is very cheap. The only way to combat it is by educating oneself - that costs something, even if only in time and energy spent on the task.
People who decline to open their wallets nevertheless feel they have the right to try to sell the goods that come out of their mouths and hope others will pay the time to listen ... methinks such products are less valuable than those sold by people who have invested what is necessary to distill old grapes into good wine. |
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bucheon bum
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| To get to my next destination, I actually thought I would enjoy my time here, I enjoyed China. |
You must have a really bad job there then, because seriously, Korea isn't half-bad. Not the upper echelon of locations, perhaps, but it is far from the bottom. Must not be eating enough kalbi or "wei". |
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dogbert
Joined: 29 Jan 2003
Location: Killbox 90210
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| Posted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 4:01 pm Post subject: |
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| Speaking of the ignorance inculcated in Koreans in school and through their media, check this out. |
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