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A Textbook is What You Make It!!
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Wishmaster



Joined: 06 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Sun Jul 24, 2005 12:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, I agree that the inept nature of the haggie business here is pretty unbelievable. You can be creative but most of your students don't give a rat's ass about learning English and are only there because they are forced to be. It doesn't matter what you design, it ain't gonna work. It might work for a class or two, change of pace, but over the long-term...over those 25 or so classes, week after week, it won't hold up and you'll end up spending more time on preparing lessons that in actually teaching them and then you are wasting YOUR time. I go with the flow here...I have no expectations from day to day....this isn't professional...it's merely a paycheck. Not the way I want it but that's the way they've set things up.
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jajdude



Joined: 18 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Sun Jul 24, 2005 8:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Agreed. If you're in the classroom 25+ hours per week, how can you find the time and energy to prepare good activities for every class? That's why a good book helps and a crappy one makes it harder.
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Southern Drawl



Joined: 13 Mar 2005

PostPosted: Sun Jul 24, 2005 11:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

One thing not mentioned here is the fact that Koreans love to hold onto a book when they go to class. They also feel a sense of accomplishment if they finish the book. (My adults do anyways.) Although, I've had classes before where the book was just for show and I brought in all of the activities myself. But yes, it takes too much time. Find a book that you like and save yourself some time. Improve on the book yourself by bringing in supp. activities. And BunnyMonster is right. You can have the best book in the world, the best supp. activites, and be the best teacher but if your students are uncooperative or unmotivated then you can just forget about making any progress.
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schwa



Joined: 18 Jan 2003
Location: Yap

PostPosted: Mon Jul 25, 2005 2:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been teaching text-free for years & I wouldnt have it any other way.

I borrow & adapt freely from lots of sources & I like to customize my lessons. Text series (I'm familiar with a good many of them) all cover the same common ground but I've yet to find one that is consistently fresh & engaging enough to hold interest over the long haul -- my students' or mine!

Yes, students seem to like the material feel of a book in their hands, but how many actually review on their own or read ahead? I'm gratified to see a good percentage of my students (elementary, teens, & adults) putting together organized folders of my handouts that they do in fact refer back to.

Because, I think, I do my best to come up with relevant english -- stuff they want to know & express. Many of my classes are free & voluntary to the students & attendance is good.

No claim to being any kind of genius teacher. I just try to keep it fun & useful. What are we going to do next week -- no idea! But my students trust me to come up with something. Not so much extra prep but it requires just a bit of forethought about what will build nicely on what we're already doing.

The simplest of activities often work best.
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bosintang



Joined: 01 Dec 2003
Location: In the pot with the rest of the mutts

PostPosted: Mon Jul 25, 2005 10:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think it depends on how often you see the students. If I see the students infrequently (say once a week or less), then I actually prefer to make my own materials.
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matthews_world



Joined: 15 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2005 2:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm interested in knowing other teachers teaching methods. For example, I'm teaching a unit on daily activities. What are some ideas you use to teach these? I should say that my students are mostly college students.

Questions I'll use:

What do you usually do every day? Morning, afternoon, night.
What does your mother usually do everyday?
If you were poor, what is one thing you would do everyday?
If you were rich, what is one thing that you would do everyday?
What is one thing you dream you could do?

Besides the prerequisite Bingo, I've yet to find a game or activity that would make teaching daily activities fun.
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EFLtrainer



Joined: 04 May 2005

PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2005 4:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ya-ta Boy wrote:
Text books are the platform that a teacher builds a good lesson around. I doubt that is news to anyone.


It is to me! I'm more comfortable with this version:

Textbooks are a platform that a teacher can build a good lesson around.

Wink

And aren't all printed books text books? Wink Wink
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babtangee



Joined: 18 Dec 2004
Location: OMG! Charlie has me surrounded!

PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2005 4:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
Bunny "Jason hush be quiet please, now, how do the family look"
Jason " they is dong"
Emily "Teacher no pencil!!!!"
Mark " They ugly, Emily ugly"
Emily "Mark, Mark,uh , ummm TEACHHHHERRRR NO PENCIL"
Bunny "hmmm noooooo... they look happy, why might they not be happy?"
Jason "they is dong, teacher is dong"
Bunny " no think about why they might be sad."
Mark "Because they saw you!"
Bunny "maybe one of them is sick?"
Emily "They is happy"
Bunny "almost Emily its 'they are happy', now lets open our workbooks to page number 16......................."
Emily "Teeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaachhhhhher no booooooooooook! NO PENCIL!!!!!!!!"
Bunny *sigh*


Dude, de ja vu... I have the exact same class! Though I consider this my good class - they are actually speaking English!

Hanson wrote:


Bunnymonster - you're scenario sounds like something out of some of my Uni classes, I $hit you not!

Me: Where is your textbook, Bum-seok?
Bum-seok: (stupid grin)
Me: No seriously, textbook - 'chek' odi-issoyo?
Bum-seok: Obsoyo. (stupid grin)
Me: Ok, well, you lose a participation point today. Minus one, ok?
Bum-seok: Ye-ye.
Me: Ok, well at least take out a pen or pencil to work on this handout.
Bum-seok: ye?
Me: Pencil or pen. 'Yeonpil animyeon Boll-pen'.
Bum-seok: Boll pen - no.
Me: Rolling Eyes

The best activities in the world won't do anything for a class of unmotivated students. This is almost word-by-word a conversation I had with a couple of students in my Sports class in UNIVERSITY. Shocked


Well why would they be motivated when you're making it so easy for them? Seriously, what's with all the Korean: is this your Korean-conversation class you're talking about?

If they're uni students, make the lazy ones feel ashamed that they don't know dick (teach the students some mild insults, and then latter, insult the ignorant... those who paid attention will have a laugh, the insulted will wonder why they are feeling stupid - then they should try or leave; either of which is better than turning an English class into a "let's listen foreigner Korean speak" class.
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