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igotthisguitar
Joined: 08 Apr 2003
Location: South Korea (Permanent Vacation)
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| Derrek wrote: |
Hummmm.....
Canadians and their pot. 
God forbid should anyone keep them from it. Oh, the horror! |
Uhhh ... a large number of Americans ( living down there in the "land of the free" ) smoke too Derrek. |
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joe_doufu
Joined: 09 May 2005
Location: Elsewhere
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| Posted: Mon Jan 09, 2006 11:42 pm Post subject: Re: Sleeping with an Elephant + Weed! |
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| matesol wrote: |
| It is because of his long career of activism that the DEA is targeting him. |
That's quite a stretch. From reading the article it seems that he has deliberately broken the law in an effort to get himself arrested, in order to cause people to question the purpose of the law -- that's also known as "civil disobedience". Being arrested/tried/sentenced was his goal. Why should we oppose it, if it's what he wants? |
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Pyongshin Sangja
Joined: 20 Apr 2003
Location: I love baby!
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| Posted: Tue Jan 10, 2006 1:07 pm Post subject: |
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| Which Canadian law has he broken? |
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joe_doufu
Joined: 09 May 2005
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| Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 9:03 am Post subject: Re: Sleeping with an Elephant + Weed! |
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I think you'll find a few instances of "breaking Canadian law" in the following. I'm not passing judgement, but it's clear he's trying to get arrested, in order to demonstrate to people that these laws are morally wrong. He wants to be jailed. I support this hero in his goal.
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On Friday July 29th, 2005, British Columbia Marijuana Party President Marc Emery was arrested while vacationing in Nova Scotia by Halifax police, and his business in Vancouver was raided by Vancouver police, both at the request of the U.S. Drug Enforcement Agency (DEA).
Working in cooperation with the U.S. Attorney��s Office in Seattle, Washington, the DEA is requesting that Emery be extradited to the United States on charges of conspiracy to cultivate marijuana, conspiracy to launder money, and conspiracy to distribute marijuana seeds. All charges relate to the operation of his business Marc Emery Direct Marijuana Seeds, which openly sells marijuana seeds – but not marijuana – over the Internet.
Emery uses the profits from his business to fund his magazine Cannabis Culture, his Internet TV network Pot-TV, and drug law reform and libertarian activism around the world.
Presently, there are many Canadian, English, and Dutch businesses selling marijuana seeds to Americans. To understand why Emery in particular was targeted, the history of his activism must be understood.
Emery's career as an activist began in 1980 when, as proprietor of the City Lights Bookstore in London, Ontario, he stumbled upon Ayn Rand's Capitalism: The Unknown Ideal and Murray Rothbard's Conceived in Liberty. The influence of these books was profound and, eventually, Emery decided to devote his career to the cause of individual freedom.
While proprietor of City Lights, Emery led several notable campaigns. When the local garbage collectors union went on strike, Emery started a private and gratis garbage collection service. When the Ontario government banned 2 Live Crew CDs, Emery advertised the sale of, and sold, the CDs from his store. While Ontario's Sunday close laws were in place, Emery repeatedly opened his store on Sundays. The law was eventually overturned in no small part thanks to his efforts.
Emery first became involved in drug law reform activism in the early 1990s, when he sold copies of High Times magazine on the steps of London police headquarters to protest Canada��s then prohibition on drug-related literature (which was eventually overturned thanks to his efforts).
In 1994, Emery moved his activist efforts west and set up HempBC in Vancouver, B.C., which he termed his "libertarian capitalist project." His "hempire" included the Little Grow Shop, the HempBC legal aid society, and the Cannabis Café. Together they were to be the political, cultural, and economic centres of British Columbia's burgeoning marijuana culture.
In the late 1990s, Emery's businesses suffered a series of raids from Vancouver police, each coming shortly after Emery was featured in major U.S. media outlets like CNN, the cover of the Wall Street Journal, and ABC��s Sex, Drugs, and Consenting Adults. [big surprise! you advertise on national television that you're trying to be a leader of the pot-smoking community, and the police take notice of you... oh it must be a cop conspiracy! ] It was rumoured then that the arrests were motivated by pressure from U.S. law enforcement.
In court, B.C. judges refused to send Emery to jail for his peaceful civil disobedience, giving him at most fines. In retaliation, Vancouver police started seizing Emery��s inventory, but not charging him – in effect stealing his property.
Eventually run under financially, Emery moved his operation to B.C.'s Sunshine Coast, a short ferry ride from Vancouver. There, he continued both his seed business and his magazine. It was also during this sojourn that Emery founded Pot-TV.
In 2001, Emery moved his operation back to Vancouver when he founded the B.C. Marijuana Party, a provincial political party dedicated to individual rights and ending the drug war. That year, the party ran in its first provincial election. It was the first political party in B.C.'s history to have a candidate in every riding in its first election, fielding 79 candidates in 79 ridings. The party garnered 50,000 votes on election night.
In the summer of 2003, Emery discovered a loophole in Canadian law that made possession of marijuana legal. When Canadian authorities continued to enforce possession laws, Emery went on an eighteen-city cross-country tour, smoking marijuana on the steps of police stations, daring police to arrest him. He was arrested in six cities, but all of the charges were eventually dropped when it was discovered that Emery was in fact correct. (Since his tour, the prohibition of marijuana possession in Canada has been re-instituted by an Ontario Court of Appeals decision.)
In the 2004 Canadian federal election, Emery supported Canada's left-wing New Democratic Party after party leader Jack Layton appeared on Pot-TV and promised to legalize the growth, sale, and possession of marijuana if elected. |
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Pyongshin Sangja
Joined: 20 Apr 2003
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| Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 9:09 am Post subject: |
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| conspiracy to cultivate marijuana, conspiracy to launder money, and conspiracy to distribute marijuana seeds. |
These are baseless charges from the home of the animal fornicator Bush who should be beaten with shoes by freedom loving people everywhere. |
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Sooke
Joined: 12 Jan 2004
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| Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 6:01 pm Post subject: |
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I thought this thread as about someone in Thailand, you know, on one of those elephant treks, and they had weed.
This is a little disappointing. I guess sleeping with the elephant refers to Trudeau's remark about living next to America is like sleeping next to an elephant. Ummm, it's big, grey, it likes peanuts, and uhhhh smells? Just like America!!!  |
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joe_doufu
Joined: 09 May 2005
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| Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 6:28 pm Post subject: |
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| Pyongshin Sangja wrote: |
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| conspiracy to cultivate marijuana, conspiracy to launder money, and conspiracy to distribute marijuana seeds. |
These are baseless charges from the home of the animal fornicator Bush who should be beaten with shoes by freedom loving people everywhere. |
Those things aren't also illegal in Canada? Maybe distributing seeds is legal, but I think that's the only one. |
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Pyongshin Sangja
Joined: 20 Apr 2003
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| Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 7:38 pm Post subject: |
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| Show me the sections in the Canadian Criminal Code. |
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joe_doufu
Joined: 09 May 2005
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| Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 5:43 am Post subject: |
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| Pyongshin Sangja wrote: |
| Show me the sections in the Canadian Criminal Code. |
What makes you think I care so much that I would do that for you? I have no doubts that the dude is committing civil disobedience, I'm satisfied with that explanation and hear no debate from any quarter. |
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Nowhere Man
Joined: 08 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 6:01 am Post subject: ... |
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Call me quarter 
Walk the walk, tofu that smells like manure.
What are these people charged with in Canada? |
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Hollywoodaction
Joined: 02 Jul 2004
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| Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 6:37 am Post subject: |
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Joe. Generally speaking, police officers enforce the law in cases where they suspect organized crime may be involved. They couldn't care less about someone with a few grams of marijuana.
Just remember that your first president is remembered as a great general, while our first prime minister is remembered as guy who liked a drink.
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Pyongshin Sangja
Joined: 20 Apr 2003
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| Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 6:10 pm Post subject: |
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| What makes you think I care so much that I would do that for you? I have no doubts that the dude is committing civil disobedience, I'm satisfied with that explanation and hear no debate from any quarter. |
Yes, but civil disobedience in which country? |
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