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mysteriousdeltarays
Joined: 07 Feb 2003
Location: Food Pyramid Bldg. 5F, 77 Sunset Strip, Alphaville
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Perhaps one shouldn't be here, if one doesn't know simple grammar.
I loved the Korean "examples." They were pretty good in a way. Yet again they were straight from dictionaries. There is a form for it but nobody uses it. |
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Billy Pilgrim
Joined: 08 Sep 2004
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| Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2005 3:43 pm Post subject: |
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| mysteriousdeltarays wrote: |
Perhaps one shouldn't be here, if one doesn't know simple grammar.
I loved the Korean "examples." They were pretty good in a way. Yet again they were straight from dictionaries. There is a form for it but nobody uses it. |
I assume you are referring to me.
If one is going to take issue with another's grammar, one should definitely correct it and show how it is wrong, unless one wishes to be thought of as a jackass.
Shouldn't one? |
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Sliver
Joined: 04 May 2003
Location: The third dimension
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| Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2005 4:10 pm Post subject: |
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| Perhaps one shouldn't be here, if one doesn't know simple grammar. |
At least WTF is big enough to say he/she doesn't get it and is trying to improve his/her grammar knowledge.
"He who asks a question looks like a fool for a minute, he who doesn't ask remains a fool forever" (author unknown). |
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whatthefunk
Joined: 21 Apr 2003
Location: Dont have a clue
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| Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2005 8:42 pm Post subject: |
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| mysteriousdeltarays wrote: |
| Perhaps one shouldn't be here, if one doesn't know simple grammar. |
Well, I usually dont think about things like this. My students asked me alot of questions that caught me off guard, so I asked around to try to set myself straight and them straight also. If you want to look down on me because of that, then please feel free to do so. |
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Qinella
Joined: 25 Feb 2005
Location: the crib
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| Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2005 11:38 pm Post subject: |
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| whatthefunk wrote: |
| mysteriousdeltarays wrote: |
| Perhaps one shouldn't be here, if one doesn't know simple grammar. |
Well, I usually dont think about things like this. My students asked me alot of questions that caught me off guard, so I asked around to try to set myself straight and them straight also. If you want to look down on me because of that, then please feel free to do so. |
Yes, that happens to me quite frequently with my fellow teachers. The other day, one of them asked me, "What is the difference between 'any' and 'any of'?" It caught me off guard, but I did determine a sensible answer for her. Another time, she asked, "How do you know which past tense verbs end with 't' sound and which end with 'd' sound?" So I sat down and drew her a reference chart, because, again, I'd never thought of it before.
I wasn't an English major, but I did study grammar and vocabulary as separate courses in college in order to further my skills. I've also served as a newpaper copy editor, and can edit English in my sleep. If other people, however, don't have a similar background in advanced English, I'd suggest getting on the ball and buying some study material. I personally hate the feeling of stammering like an idiot when someone asks me a question about a subject I teach. Here's a recommendation, that everyone should buy online if they don't already have something similar:
Writing from A to Z, Sally Barr Ebest, Mayfield Publishing.
This book is an awesome reference, and it also has special notes for ESL learners. I had an advanced student steal this book from me, and after repeated calls and her brother lying about her not being home, I physically went to her house and demanded it back. It's a great book.
Regarding the usage of "yet" in the simple past form, I wasn't aware of any problems, but the dictionary definition does imply a rule. "Up to a specific point in time," specifically. |
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