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ilovebdt
Joined: 03 Jun 2005
Location: Nr Seoul
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[I'm beginning to think that my mistake was submitting the ticket ahead of time like a good girl. If they had told me I needed approval for my ticket, then it would have been prudent to put that in writing, or even say it out loud, as opposed to "Price doesn't matter."[/quote]
Sorry, I can't be of much help. But, I think that was your mistake. Play by the rules and someone moves the goal posts. |
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fusionbarnone
Joined: 31 May 2004
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| Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 12:33 pm Post subject: |
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They've got to pay for your ticket(at least one of them) as it's in your contract.
What experience does your overseer have?
Usually someone gets landed with the job(happens in EPIK) and they become responsible for you. Some nominees even attempt to play the contractual creative interpretive K-legal eagle(at your expense) to reduce overheads and earn lots of face in the process.
The Korean working experience is boundaries testing, brinksmanship, and a waiting game. Think payoff and think/play to win. Koreans do it all the time.
Foreigners(according to one Korean teachers stats.;70% of all visitors to Korea have a bad experience) have such a sour memories in the ROK.
Don't let them play poker with your money. Your money is your friend.
Consult with EFL-law. |
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deessell
Joined: 08 Jun 2005
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| Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 2:20 pm Post subject: |
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| Well at first I was inclined to think that it was your problem as you had missed the flight, but after thinking about it, they are responsible for the ticket that got you home. So I think they owe you for the more expensive ticket. Have you re-signed a new contract with GEPIK? |
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matthews_world
Joined: 15 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 2:27 pm Post subject: |
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take them to the labour board....your contract is quite clear.....they have to pay for the ticket there is no stipulation of price or anything of the sort...the fact you missed your flight is irrelevant.....
The sooner people start taking GEPIK to the labour board over illegal clauses in the contracts and failute to live up to the contracts the better! |
Wrong!
The flight clause was fair as they pay for only round trip airfare. GEPIK is doing their job.
What's your beef with GEPIK, Grotto? Many know you are employed by them, if I'm not mistaken. |
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kermo
Joined: 01 Sep 2004
Location: Eating eggs, with a comb, out of a shoe.
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| Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 3:59 pm Post subject: |
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| matthews_world wrote: |
The flight clause was fair as they pay for only round trip airfare. GEPIK is doing their job.
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What does this mean? The contract says that the employer will pay for a "direct, economy class flight from employee's home to Incheon." I bought a round trip ticket (to get home, and then to get back) and charged them for half of it. In any case, I'm not sure what you mean by "only round trip airfare" or what "flight clause" you're referring to. |
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alinkorea
Joined: 02 May 2005
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| Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 4:49 pm Post subject: |
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| This post has brightened my morning. Good to see muppetry is alive and well in the wacky world of ESL. The mistake is yours. You missed the flight. Yet you want your school to pay the penalty for your mistake. There is absolutely no reason at all why they should, or indeed will. If I were you I would stay well clear of the Labor Board. If you do go they'll have to issue diapers to their staff, 'cos they'll be pis*ing themselves for months |
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pegpig
Joined: 10 May 2005
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| Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 5:20 pm Post subject: |
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I think the labour board should busy themselves with the corrupt schools that fire their teachers at the 11th month or don't pay salaries and what not. You're getting your airfare.
If you were back in Winterpig I don't know if you would have any recourse either. First they would look at your contract. If its says something like,
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| a "direct, economy class flight from employee's home to Incheon." |
I think you'd lose out back home also.
They're choosing to pay for a less expensive one the same as any sane business person would do.
The contract isn't specific enough regarding price and they would probably go with some kind of 'reasonable person' notion. Missing a flight isn't reasonable.
Many things are the big bad hogwan's fault, but not this one. |
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crazylemongirl
Joined: 23 Mar 2003
Location: almost there...
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| Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2005 12:14 am Post subject: |
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Oh for christ sakes I can't beileve people are fighting over this. She booked the flight, she knew when it was departing and yet missed it through her own dis-organisation and now expects someone else to pay for her mistake.
This is a classic example of why unionism doesn't work. |
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kermo
Joined: 01 Sep 2004
Location: Eating eggs, with a comb, out of a shoe.
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| Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2005 8:08 am Post subject: |
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| pegpig wrote: |
If you were back in Winterpig I don't know if you would have any recourse either. First they would look at your contract. If its says something like,
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| a "direct, economy class flight from employee's home to Incheon." |
I think you'd lose out back home also.
They're choosing to pay for a less expensive one the same as any sane business person would do.
The contract isn't specific enough regarding price and they would probably go with some kind of 'reasonable person' notion. Missing a flight isn't reasonable.
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Interesting point. I will have to look at the exact wording to see if that's true. By the way, I'm not working for a hagwon. I'm working for Fat Mother Gyeonggi-do (GEPIK). Maybe it's my Canadian socialist side coming out, as CLG. They did check to see if the airline gave me a regular (rather than an emergency) fare, and yep-- that was their normal price.
Would it be ethical and reasonable for me to have booked the flight with Singapore Air to begin with? After all, my supervisor said "Price doesn't matter." Would the school be responsible for the ticket if I hadn't missed the first flight?
I'm not going to get hysterical about this, and I don't think I'll bother with the Labour Board (odds are good they're side with the government regardless of what the contract says).
It's over $700 out of my pocket, but it was worth it to see my grandfather for that day. He won't be around much longer I suspect, and he needed a boost.
*slightly bitter mumbling*
(They say it's my mistake, and that I should pay. Okay, but I find it hypocritical given that my supervisor failed to cancel a cell phone account when he said it was sorted out, then insisted that I pay for the fees that accumulated for the rest of the year. His mistake; my money. I'm done with the contract as of today, so I will just try to put it behind me and forget about the whole business.)
I've taken a lot of flack for posing this question, but I'm sure most of you would ask yourself the same thing in the same circumstances. I'm not going to raise hell-- I just wanted to consider my options.
Decision: let the Gyeonggi supervisor sort it out. Take the blow to the wallet and count my blessings. |
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pegpig
Joined: 10 May 2005
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Hogwan/GEPIK, potatoe potatoe, tomato tomato. Hmmm. Not quite the same written as oral. You're right. My bad.
The cell phone issue was your supervisor's fault. However, since there's nothing in writing, good luck fighting it. Your word against a Korean's. HAH.
I still get a kick out of what I read before coming to Korea. I read somewhere that the Korean spoken word was more trustworthy than the written word. 
I still have to piss myself laughing when I think back to that one. |
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