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dogbert

Joined: 29 Jan 2003
Location: Killbox 90210

Posted: Sun Sep 04, 2005 10:25 pm Post subject:

Paji eh Wong wrote:

dogbert wrote:

While you're bleating about "racism", the supposed victims of that racism are actively trying to assassinate those sent to help them.

I ask again, is this Iraq or the U.S.?

Like I said elsewhere, the differences are not as big as we think.

Indeed.

The lynching while crossing a bridge (thank God, only attempted in New Orleans) of contractors sent to rebuild a devastated area ... we were just decrying the exact same situation in Iraq as savagery of the most bestial kind, yet in the U.S., political correctness forces us to blame ourselves.

desultude

Joined: 15 Jan 2003
Location: Dangling my toes in the Persian Gulf

Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2005 12:16 am Post subject:

dogbert wrote:

Paji eh Wong wrote:

dogbert wrote:

While you're bleating about "racism", the supposed victims of that racism are actively trying to assassinate those sent to help them.

I ask again, is this Iraq or the U.S.?

Like I said elsewhere, the differences are not as big as we think.

I am sure you use the racially loaded word "lynch" deliberately.

This whole discussion is based on someone's racially loaded blog. He is the sort of right wing extremist ranter that would not have been heard outside of his own clan meeting if it weren't for the internet.

Here are some other articles from the blog:
• New Orleans Police Go AWOL
• Blacks Turn On Whites In New Orleans Superdome
• Should New Orleans Get Rebuilt And Who Should Pay For It?
• Halt To Illegal Immigration Would Increase Convenience In Everyday Life
• Partisan Politics And The New Orleans Hurricane Katrina Disaster
• New Orleans Demonstrates Power Of Race Taboo In America
• Poverty Rises: Its The Immigration Stupid
• Iraq: Constitution Or Peace Treaty Negotiation?
• Stress Of War Exacts Long Term Health Costs
• Tom Lasseter Reports On The Dismal Situation In Iraq
• Charles Murray: The Inequality Taboo
• Tougher Light Truck Fuel Efficiency Standards Proposed
• How Much Can State Level Immigration Initiatives Accomplish?

The surfacing of racist BS here is not surprising. Let's divert attention from the real issues here.

dogbert

Joined: 29 Jan 2003
Location: Killbox 90210

Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2005 1:38 am Post subject:

The Associated Press reported the item. It's a real issue that so many people in that area are attacking rescue workers and other officials.

Gwangjuboy

Joined: 08 Jul 2003
Location: England

Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2005 1:43 am Post subject:

desultude wrote:

I am sure you use the racially loaded word "lynch" deliberately.

Irrespective of the perpetrators a lynching is a lynching. Should we expunge the word from the English language?

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This whole discussion is based on someone's racially loaded blog. He is the sort of right wing extremist ranter that would not have been heard outside of his own clan meeting if it weren't for the internet.

Firstly, other sources have been used in this thread. Secondly, I would like to see some evidence that substantiates your claim that the blog is racist. I had a look at it, and the articles I came across were well argued and supported by links, and other forms of evidence. It's unfair to label someone's work "racist" merely because you don't agree with what was written.

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Here are some other articles from the blog:

Yep, let's have a look at them.

• New Orleans Police Go AWOL CNN covered it. Are they racist too?

• Blacks Turn On Whites In New Orleans Superdome - Supported by a newspaper article, and accounts from witnesses who were in the stadium. Were you there?

• Should New Orleans Get Rebuilt And Who Should Pay For It? - Discussed on CNN.

• Halt To Illegal Immigration Would Increase Convenience In Everyday Life - Makes sense to me. Clamping down on illegal activity is an inconvenience?

• Partisan Politics And The New Orleans Hurricane Katrina Disaster - Yep. KKK campfire stuff for sure.

• New Orleans Demonstrates Power Of Race Taboo In America - Aaron Brown tackled the issue on CNN. Was he hiding his sheets that day?

• Poverty Rises: Its The Immigration Stupid - Economics. Hardly in the same league as "let's beat up some black guys."

• Iraq: Constitution Or Peace Treaty Negotiation? - Evidently the KKK have their fingers in quite a few pies these days.

• Stress Of War Exacts Long Term Health Costs - Yep. Move over Hitler.

• Tom Lasseter Reports On The Dismal Situation In Iraq - Wait! Is Bobster part of the Klan too these days?

• Charles Murray: The Inequality Taboo - And?

• Tougher Light Truck Fuel Efficiency Standards Proposed - Oh yeah! What a knock in the balls to the haulage industry. Oh, and damn you black people!

• How Much Can State Level Immigration Initiatives Accomplish? - Are there any major political parties who don't discuss this?

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The surfacing of racist BS here is not surprising. Let's divert attention from the real issues here.

Yeah that stuff was really racist. Did you see all of those articles calling for black people to be hung from trees for breathing? Confused

Last edited by Gwangjuboy on Mon Sep 05, 2005 1:46 am; edited 2 times in total

EFLtrainer

Joined: 04 May 2005

Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2005 1:43 am Post subject:

dogbert wrote:

While you're bleating about "racism", the supposed victims of that racism are actively trying to assassinate those sent to help them.

I ask again, is this Iraq or the U.S.?

I was talking about one person's racist post. I have not addressed racism as it applies to NO. What, exactly, are *you* bleating about?

jinglejangle

Joined: 19 Feb 2005
Location: Far far far away.

Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2005 1:47 am Post subject:

shakuhachi wrote:

There is nothing wrong with my grammar, EFLtrainer. Black controlled cities in the US are frequently described as 'black run'.

Yes, generally by racists.

EFLtrainer

Joined: 04 May 2005

Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2005 1:49 am Post subject:

This thread is worth the time of not one person. And less than that.

Gwangjuboy

Joined: 08 Jul 2003
Location: England

Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2005 1:49 am Post subject:

EFLtrainer wrote:

I was talking about one person's racist post. I have not addressed racism as it applies to NO. What, exactly, are *you* bleating about?

I don't recall seeing a racist post in this thread. How about cutting and pasting it so we can see what you are going on about here.

Gwangjuboy

Joined: 08 Jul 2003
Location: England

Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2005 1:51 am Post subject:

jinglejangle wrote:

shakuhachi wrote:

There is nothing wrong with my grammar, EFLtrainer. Black controlled cities in the US are frequently described as 'black run'.

Yes, generally by racists.

This does not equal "always" does it?

dogbert

Joined: 29 Jan 2003
Location: Killbox 90210

Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2005 1:57 am Post subject:

1. The race card cuts both ways: if it can be claimed that the response to the hurricane aftermath is "racist", then it can also be claimed that the reaction to the response is "racist". 2. The United States has really degenerated if events that parallel quite closely Iraqi insurgents' actions occur here as well. If one cannot point that out without being labelled a "racist", then we as a society are never going to be able to begin working on these problems.

jinglejangle

Joined: 19 Feb 2005
Location: Far far far away.

Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2005 2:00 am Post subject:

Gwangjuboy wrote:

jinglejangle wrote:

shakuhachi wrote:

There is nothing wrong with my grammar, EFLtrainer. Black controlled cities in the US are frequently described as 'black run'.

Yes, generally by racists.

This does not equal "always" does it?

No, but given that shaka khan here is going on about the complete breakdown of law and order and then saying what do you expect in a black run city, I'd say in this case, seems pretty strongly like it.

***unless the guy was being sarcastic, in which case I missed it.
either way, I'm done with this thread.***

EFLtrainer

Joined: 04 May 2005

Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2005 2:52 am Post subject:

Gwangjuboy wrote:

desultude wrote:

I am sure you use the racially loaded word "lynch" deliberately.

Irrespective of the perpetrators a lynching is a lynching. Should we expunge the word from the English language?

What lynching are you going on about? Who threw a rope over what and hung somebody? Unless someone was hung, saying it was a lynching is race baiting, IMHO. Unless the poster simply needs a larger vocabulary: Did the poster mean ambushed? Attacked?

shakuhachi

Joined: 08 Feb 2003
Location: Sydney

Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2005 3:01 am Post subject:

EFLtrainer wrote:

So the master of the English language doesnt know the meaning of lynching. Lynching is 'violence, usually murder, conceived by its perpetrators as extra-legal execution, or used as a terrorist method of enforcing social domination'. Lynchings sometimes take the form of hangings, but not always.

EFLtrainer indeed.

EFLtrainer

Joined: 04 May 2005

Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2005 3:07 am Post subject:

shakuhachi wrote:

EFLtrainer wrote:

This is my last post in this disgusting, repugnant, sickening thread.

First, while lynching has more than one interpretation, it's use by the vast majority of people is quite limited: extra-legal hanging. Given this, any other use of the word in this thread is obviously racially motivated.

So, what's your personal problem with me, anyway? Think you know me? Man/Woman enough to deal up front? Childish crap.

desultude

Joined: 15 Jan 2003
Location: Dangling my toes in the Persian Gulf

Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2005 3:16 am Post subject:

EFLtrainer wrote:

shakuhachi wrote:

EFLtrainer wrote:

Yeah, I am out the door with you. Sad and depressing this crap is.

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