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Tiberious aka Sparkles
Joined: 23 Jan 2003
Location: I'm one cool cat!
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 Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2005 4:47 pm Post subject: |
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| tommynomad wrote: |
At the risk of falling for a joke I missed:
Name one mainstream hollywood movie that has shown real sex.
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He was talking about porno movies.
HTH
Sparkles*_* |
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tommynomad
Joined: 24 Jul 2004
Location: on the move
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| Posted: Tue Sep 13, 2005 3:42 pm Post subject: |
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| red dog wrote: |
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| but I also think many of the TV programs and movies out there just aren't suitable for kids. Not just the ones that show graphic sex and violence |
I have seen thousands of hours of graphic violence on TV, both real and simulated. I have never, to my recollection, seen graphic sex. Please enlighten me as to where one might see this.
We are (by and large) sexophobes. We can choose whether or not to give our kids the same ridiculous, detrimental hang-ups. |
Well, IMO shows like Sex and the City and *beep* as Folk show too much |
That it's your personal line is fine, but that doesn't make it graphic. Culturally, we embrace depictions of violence and deny those of sex.
I agree that there is lots on TV that's inappropriate for kids. I'd argue that the two main categories, though, are:
too violent
too stupid
TV is made for the lowest common denominator. If you allow your kids to be entertained by it, you push them towards that LCD. I'm doing mine the favour of giving them the capacity to entertain themselves. |
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new horizons
Joined: 25 Jul 2004
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| Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 11:39 am Post subject: |
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| To me, that��s the point. Why be skeeved out over sex, but not violence? |
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red dog
Joined: 31 Oct 2004
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| Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2005 11:54 pm Post subject: |
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| The movie "American Beauty" was on TV last night. It had its merits as a film, but even so ... I remember a time when that sort of thing would have been considered "unsuitable for television." |
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Tiberious aka Sparkles
Joined: 23 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2005 6:17 am Post subject: |
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The trouble is -- and I realize this doesn't help answer the question posed in the OP; it's more my thought on the previous post, and maybe it's already been said -- that many have discovered how to take violence and make it art, but few (no one, as far as I know) has successfully been able to turn explicit sex on film into art. If there is a porno movie that is beautifully artistic and interesting to watch, believe me, I'd like to hear about it.
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new horizons
Joined: 25 Jul 2004
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Why is it that? Why are we so much more comfortable with violence than sex? Why is it that we feel comfortable with feeling excitement when someone gets his head blown off, but not when someone reaches orgasm?
When I talk about love scenes I am not necessarily talking about the explicit close ups of penetration seen in pornographic films (which in their own way are as unrealistic as the closed mouthed passion of the fifties), but the kind of frank scenes seen in movies out of Europe and other parts of the world. The stuff that gets cut when the films are shown in the States.
Americans seem to make sex dirty. We make it about debasement and raunch. Why is that? |
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Octavius Hite
Joined: 28 Jan 2004
Location: Househunting, looking for a new bunker from which to convert the world to homosexuality.
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| Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 8:43 pm Post subject: |
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| In canada porno is pretty wild but the government bans any porno with sex and/or rape in it. I think that is a completely fair way to approcah the issue. |
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Pangit
Joined: 02 Sep 2004
Location: Puet mo.
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| Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 8:56 pm Post subject: |
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| My vote is for sex. |
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Freezer Burn
Joined: 11 Apr 2005
Location: Busan
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| Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 9:20 pm Post subject: |
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I think HBO and Showtime are moving in the right direction as far as content on television, shows like The Sapranos, sex and the city, Q as Folk, OZ...
I think that American programmers treat us like we are idiots who don't live in the real world, they are too afraid to push any boundries ad show life for what it truely is and that means showing sex as a part of life not a sinful act that should be hidden behind the curtain. |
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Dan The Chainsawman
Joined: 05 May 2005
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| Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2005 9:43 pm Post subject: |
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Maybe I am just feeling my years here, being 30 does that, but honestly the last thing I want to see on tv is a rape scene.
Of course a disclaimer to that is I rarely watch tv. |
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