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[The Man known as The Man]

[EFLtrainer]

[rapier]

The pope is human. he is fallible in every way.

God does not need or want a representative to supposedly run his affairs, a go-between or a dude claiming to be him.

God already provided a mediator to reach him: Jesus.


This is the difference between catholicism and true Christianity. Catholicism is by definition, blasphemy.

[Red]

[rapier]

[Rteacher]

...I can't believe I actually complimented "rapier's" presentation of Christian views. (We all make mistakes...mea culpa) Protestants reaction to evident corruption at the Vatican was more akin to throwing the baby out with the bathwater. (At least Catholics understand that they can approach Christ through Virgin Mary and through saints...)

Ideally, at all times there should be at least one pure representive of God on earth to personify to teachings of Jesus (and other true representatives and incarnations of God) in an exemplary way.

In the original religion on this planet, the Vedic system, great emphasis is given to the authorized disciplic succession of spiritual masters appearing in an unbroken chain of pure devotee gurus originating from the original guru, God.

A bona-fide spiritual master humbly accepts service on behalf of God, and purely prays to God to accept the offerings of fallen souls. The pyschology from God's point of view is something like "Love me, love my dog..." Krishna states (somewhere) that "One who claims to be my devotee is not my devotee...One who is the devotee of my devotee is my real devotee..." A real guru never claims to be God, but sees himself as the servant of the servant of the servant ... of God.

Neither God nor his pure representatives should be blasphemed - regardless of the particular religious tradition...

[EFLtrainer]

[Red]

[rapier]

how do you account for this then Mr Atheist?
http://www.doesgodexist.org/Charts/CheckableBiblicalAccuracy.html

[ervinmagic]

God is dead
and no one cares
"George Bush - Private Tapes from College"

[Rteacher]

Well in defense of "W" (who'd a thunk it?) he's only a few years older than me so he must have noticed the Time Magazine cover story with the big bold letters IS GOD DEAD? I vaguely remember meditating on that thought and misinforming my friends that "God is dead" while tripping on some less-than-pure acid (those were days of darkness - if I happened to be awake in the daytime I'd put a black light on ...)

[fiveeagles]

Paul, around 2000 years ago, already saw disbelief in the people when he wrote the following,

18For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who suppress the truth in unrighteousness, 19because what may be known of God is manifest in them, for God has shown it to them. 20For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse, 21because, although they knew God, they did not glorify Him as God, nor were thankful, but became futile in their thoughts, and their foolish hearts were darkened. 22Professing to be wise, they became fools, 23and changed the glory of the incorruptible God into an image made like corruptible man—and birds and four-footed animals and creeping things.
Romans 1:18-23

Imagine, your answers can be found in ancient text. It's beautiful. Besides this, most of the great apologists of this age are Christians.
William Dembski,
http://www.designinference.com/
Lee Strobel,
http://www.caseforacreator.com/home.php

[guangho]

[Rteacher]

Where does the "Big Guy" (in the Sky) fit into all this? How about as the original cause of all causes; the source of all knowledge, remembrance and forgetfulness; and the source of the demigods who control the weather - and who are easily displeased by human assaults on nature...

[khyber]