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Grotto
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| Chusok and Lunar New Years are one-day holidays which have been extended into three day holidays by tradition rather than legal requirements. Technically, they are giving the 10 days off you just demanded. |
Technically they are only giving people 6 days off(or less if you look at the wording.."including weekends")
Considering that the Korean Government considers all three days of Chuseok and Solel 'National' holidays everyone is 'entitled' to these days off...regardless of what gord thinks or how he tries to twist reality.
Get over yourself Gord....I have. |
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Gord
Joined: 25 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2005 7:57 pm Post subject: |
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| Grotto wrote: |
| Technically they are only giving people 6 days off(or less if you look at the wording.."including weekends") |
My point was that they were also giving two extra days to Chuseok and the Lunar New Year. 3+3+2+2=10. Definitely on the low side. Though their may have been a translation error and they meant five days plus the weekend which I would check on as it's very rare that schools close during the summer and winter for half a week.
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| Considering that the Korean Government considers all three days of Chuseok and Solel 'National' holidays everyone is 'entitled' to these days off...regardless of what gord thinks or how he tries to twist reality. |
Most non-essential government workers in Canada get half of Christmas Eve off (at least of the people I know in B.C.). Does that make December 24th from 12pm onward a statutory holiday in Canada? I'd hate to think that when I made my employees work on December 24th in the afternoon that should I have paid them double time and a half as required by law.
Perhaps you could cite the actual law that says that they are statutory three-day holidays each and not one-day holidays extended by tradition. I know people who got just the one day off, people who worked Friday and received Monday and today off, and people who have the traditional three days.
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| Get over yourself Gord....I have. |
For someone who has nearly had most of your of previously stated legal facts corrected and brought into line with mine to the point where much of what you say is now quoting me, I'm not sure how exactly that applies. |
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TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2005 8:19 pm Post subject: |
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| Gord wrote: |
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| Technically they are only giving people 6 days off(or less if you look at the wording.."including weekends") |
My point was that they were also giving two extra days to Chuseok and the Lunar New Year. 3+3+2+2=10. Definitely on the low side. Though their may have been a translation error and they meant five days plus the weekend which I would check on as it's very rare that schools close during the summer and winter for half a week.
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Looking at the contract it doesn't seem that the school is closing it's doors, but rather that's how much VACATION time the Employee has off in the summer and the winter. Which is probably why they put in "including the weekend".
So he gets three paid free days off then the weekend, and then he goes back to work. Same for the winter. It doesn't appear that the school is closing its doors for a vacation besides the national holidays.
Regardless, given the pay and severance and pension issues it still is a bad contract. At least that is one thing we can all agree on, isn't it? |
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Gord
Joined: 25 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2005 8:31 pm Post subject: |
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Looking at the contract it doesn't seem that the school is closing it's doors, but rather that's how much VACATION time the Employee has off in the summer and the winter. Which is probably why they put in "including the weekend".
So he gets three paid free days off then the weekend, and then he goes back to work. Same for the winter. It doesn't appear that the school is closing its doors for a vacation besides the national holidays. |
Most schools close for a week. Given the difficulty most places have in running short-staffed, especially during the summer and winter months when enrollment spikes, I would wager very heavily against anything other than the school being closed.
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| Regardless, given the pay and severance and pension issues it still is a bad contract. At least that is one thing we can all agree on, isn't it? |
It's not something I would want to agree to if I was first starting. But I try not to say whether things are good or bad, but rather what the legal requirements are. Not everyone has all the avenues open to them and if choosing between this and nothing, it's not that bad. But those with better options would be better to look elsewhere. |
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some waygug-in
Joined: 25 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2005 8:53 pm Post subject: |
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| Out of the 3 places I have worked in Korea, none of them have closed for the full week. I don't know about other places though. |
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plato's republic
Joined: 07 Dec 2004
Location: Ancient Greece
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| 1.9 million Won? Forget it, you can find better, even with no teaching experience. And I wouldn't settle for less than 10days of paid holiday in a year (not including weekends). Sounds like you could be working long hours there too, since they haven't specified when you will start and finish work. Also, the job must involve teaching some 'adults' since there's a clause in there prohibiting sexual advances. Or am I wrong? |
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