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let's face it, Jesus is boring
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fiveeagles



Joined: 19 May 2005
Location: Vancouver

PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2005 4:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I used to be a big partyyyyer and used to have a good time in many ways. Partying in New York, Miami, Chicago, Bermuda, Puerto Rico and such. Hog-nosing with the rich, living it up and such.

I have back country snowboarded all over BC, windsurfed, surfed, white water kayaked, mountain biked, hiked, camped and so on.

The best time I have ever had is finding out about Jesus.

Jesus is Awesome. His kingdom is eternal and will last forever. Angels, cherubim, elders and priests all stand before His throne and worship Him. Those who are found in Christ will reign with Him for eternity. Creating new worlds, learning new sounds, tasting new things, being filled with awe and wonder. Pleasures so indescribable that we cannot even comprehend what God has in store for us.

When I didn't know Jesus, the pleasure that I engaged in were empty and angonizing. Pleasureable, but only for a moment. Wanting to be fulfilled again. Some pleasures bring horrible consequences.

The pleasure of the Lord is rich and deep. The more you taste the more you want. But it's not in a unsastisfying way, but in a deep meaningfull way. It fills you over and over again. You have no idea what you are missing. Crying or Very sad
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Freezer Burn



Joined: 11 Apr 2005
Location: Busan

PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2005 4:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It'll suck for you if you're wrong hey, who's to say that Jesus wasn't some kind of evangelist (sp) even in todays age of skeptisim people swallow lies that they are fed, a la cult....(insert cult name here).
So in Jesus's time, imagine how vulnerable and uneducated people were, you tell someone that you are the son of God and they want to believe you, if you spend years building your credibility (like an evangelist) and a following (apositles..sp) it's easy to get credit to your story.
If a celebrity can become a Governor what stops a carpenters son from becoming a god?
I think its swell that you have blind faith, but I think I will believe in something that doesn't want to see me burn in hell for something that I can't change, (being gay)
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fiveeagles



Joined: 19 May 2005
Location: Vancouver

PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2005 5:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I think its swell that you have blind faith, but I think I will believe in something that doesn't want to see me burn in hell for something that I can't change, (being gay)


Just because you are gay doesn't mean you are going to hell. I am sorry that you have believed this lie. FB, I know God takes pleasure in you right now as who you are. I do believe you can change and there is a greater purpose for who you are, but that doesn't mean God loves you any less.

If you were to go to Hell it is because you rejected His love expressed in His son, Jesus. FB, believing in Jesus isn't blind faith. It is about the heart. You know Jesus is alive, because He makes you feel alive. You know longer feel dead.

I am not going to go into the depth of this, but I do believe gay people can make it to Heaven. I don't think they enter into God's highest purpose, but I do believe they can make it.

One time, my wife's friend, was crying in church. She was bulimik and felt ashamed of her failure. Jesus came to her and told her that if she was a bulimic for the rest of her life, that He would still love her. That love is what empowered her to overcome her disability. This love overcomes all things.

FB, it is all about the desire in your heart. Who do you long to be? That is what God measures you by. Do you want to help out people? Then God is extremely happy about that. You want to love people. He is extremely glad that you can love men. Many men can't. Maybe this is expressed in a way that isn't for your best purpose, but He still sees that love in you.
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igotthisguitar



Joined: 08 Apr 2003
Location: South Korea (Permanent Vacation)

PostPosted: Fri Sep 23, 2005 6:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have to agree with those posters who've expressed an interest in delving into the mystery of the Christ. It's quite something really.

I often wonder how he would feel if he were "born again" (Greek?) and living among us ... now. Would he essentially approve of so-called Christians? What would his main criticisms be?

Hypocrites !!!

What would he have to say on topics such as the Gnostic Gospels? The Essenes? Dead Sea Scrolls? Buddhism? Karma?

Did he actualy survive the crucifixion? What "really" happened?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yuz_Asaf

Anything BUT boring, whoever HE really was, whether a mushroom or a full-fledged philosophical & spiritual martyr, you mention his name & you've got a discussion Wink

Jesus (Latin of Greek Iesous from Hebrew Yeshua` contraction of Yehoshua` a proper name meaning savior or helper, or that which is spacious or widespread)

Panthera or Pandira
According to the apocryphal Jewish writing Sepher Toledoth Yeshua` (book of the genealogy of Jesus), Jesus was the son of Joseph Panthera, supposed by tradition to have been a Roman soldier, and Mary; hence he was known as Ben Panthera (Panthera's son).

Shocked Still bored ?
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fiveeagles



Joined: 19 May 2005
Location: Vancouver

PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2005 6:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I often wonder how he would feel if he were "born again" (Greek?) and living among us ... now. Would he essentially approve of so-called Christians? What would his main criticisms be?


The great thing is that He is alive and living among us. Why don't you ask Him? Wink
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Summer Wine



Joined: 20 Mar 2005
Location: Next to a River

PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2005 7:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting issue the OP made. Jesus is boring!

I just have two questions, no. 1 why do you care what people talk about on this forum if it doesn't hurt you personally. I have seen a few issues raised here, don't agree with them so I ignore them. Do you need to let us know what you think and why?

No. 2, Is Jesus boring because you don't like him or because you don't understand the reason some other people do?

Anti anything for no good reason doesn't say much about the issue, but it does raise questions about the person.
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RachaelRoo



Joined: 15 Jul 2005
Location: Anywhere but Ulsan!

PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2005 7:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Guys, the OP is referring to the countless Jesus threads as of lately. Post what you want, but that is a bit excessive.
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chiaa



Joined: 23 Aug 2003

PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2005 7:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You trying to say Jesus Christ can't hit a curveball?
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mithridates



Joined: 03 Mar 2003
Location: President's office, Korean Space Agency

PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2005 8:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I bet He was pretty ripped. What did it take to be a carpenter back then?
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Bulsajo



Joined: 16 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2005 8:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

fiveeagles wrote:
Jesus is Awesome.

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Red



Joined: 05 Jul 2004

PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2005 9:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I often wonder how [ jesus ] would feel if he were "born again" (Greek?) and living among us ... now. Would he essentially approve of so-called Christians? What would his main criticisms be?

"I'M NOT A WHITE GUY!"

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chiaa



Joined: 23 Aug 2003

PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2005 7:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pretty fly for a white guy.
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magicwolfman



Joined: 01 Sep 2005

PostPosted: Sun Sep 25, 2005 7:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

chiaa wrote:
Pretty fly for a white guy.


Your blasphemy will get you a one-way ticket to hell, book boy.
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chiaa



Joined: 23 Aug 2003

PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2005 1:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

magicwolfman wrote:
chiaa wrote:
Pretty fly for a white guy.


Your blasphemy will get you a one-way ticket to hell, book boy.


My one way ticket was booked long ago.
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fiveeagles



Joined: 19 May 2005
Location: Vancouver

PostPosted: Mon Sep 26, 2005 3:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bulsajo, that's pretty funny, but it's more like this,

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