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| How do kids dry their hands in your school restroom? |
| Single communal towel - gets damp and messy |
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| Paper towels - lots of trash but few cases of pinkeye |
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| Blow dryer for hands - lots of electricity |
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blunder1983
Joined: 12 Apr 2005
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| Sounds like it, when u wake up in the morning are ur eyes unable to open, cause they're crudded up with gunk? |
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Hanson
Joined: 20 Oct 2004
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| Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2005 4:45 pm Post subject: |
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| Where's the option for "nothing to dry their hands". Most of the places I've worked at, kids (and teachers) have to wipe their washed hands on their pants, shirts, or wave them around in the air for a while to dry them... |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Sun Sep 25, 2005 9:09 pm Post subject: |
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| Hanson wrote: |
| Where's the option for "nothing to dry their hands". Most of the places I've worked at, kids (and teachers) have to wipe their washed hands on their pants, shirts, or wave them around in the air for a while to dry them... |
If I'm totally caught, I use my under arms. Put your right hand under your left arm pit and your left hand under your right arm pit and dry 'em there. |
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Hanson
Joined: 20 Oct 2004
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| Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2005 6:00 am Post subject: |
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Yeah, but my pits are usually wet already...  |
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articulate_ink
Joined: 23 Mar 2004
Location: Left Korea in 2008. Hong Kong now.
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| Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2005 9:22 am Post subject: |
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I stocked up on antibacterial hand-cleaning gel (both Dial and Purell); it's necessary after touching the wet, nasty doorknob in the restroom. Since there's no soap and nothing with which to dry the hands, this is a necessary step. In addition, I keep a clean hand towel at my desk. When I need a new one, they're 3000 KRW at the Family Mart around the corner. (I always forget to bring them from home after laundering them.)
If you need the hand sanitizer, you can get it at Dongdaemun (Doota) in one of the American-goods vendors downstairs. Down here in Bundang, there's a little store in Jeongja-dong where you can buy the stuff too (as well as lots of other useful imported items). PM me if you need details on Jeongja. |
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fidel
Joined: 07 Feb 2003
Location: North Shore NZ
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| Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2005 2:17 pm Post subject: |
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| articulate_ink wrote: |
I stocked up on antibacterial hand-cleaning gel (both Dial and Purell); it's necessary after touching the wet, nasty doorknob in the restroom. Since there's no soap and nothing with which to dry the hands, this is a necessary step. In addition, I keep a clean hand towel at my desk. When I need a new one, they're 3000 KRW at the Family Mart around the corner. (I always forget to bring them from home after laundering them.)
If you need the hand sanitizer, you can get it at Dongdaemun (Doota) in one of the American-goods vendors downstairs. Down here in Bundang, there's a little store in Jeongja-dong where you can buy the stuff too (as well as lots of other useful imported items). PM me if you need details on Jeongja. |
Wow, I never knew there were people like you, so fanatically concerned about 'germs' that you 'stock up' on cleaning products  Each to his own I guess, but it must make your life a living germ hell when you step outside and come into contact with all the filth the world throws at you.
Just out of interest do you carry wetwipes and/or soap and towels when you go out? Do you touch any surface on your travels or do you make the conscious decision to avoid touching anything? Is winter your favorite time of the year for the simple reason you can wear gloves and NOT look like a freak? |
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freebeerandchicken
Joined: 02 May 2005
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2005 5:33 pm Post subject: |
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At my school we have 1 bathroom for students and teachers alike. (Well, a male and a female bathroom). There is soap; there is nothing to dry hands with. I just wring them out a bit and then don't worry about it.
I had pink eye last week... But only for about 2 days, so maybe it wasn't exactly pink eye, who knows. It was viral pink eye I think.
Before lunch, the kids all go and wash their hands. I was taught to smell each kid's hands to make sure they used soap. I'm not gonna do this anymore though! |
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casey's moon
Joined: 14 Sep 2004
Location: Daejeon
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| Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2005 2:29 am Post subject: |
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Wow, I never knew there were people like you, so fanatically concerned about 'germs' that you 'stock up' on cleaning products Each to his own I guess, but it must make your life a living germ hell when you step outside and come into contact with all the filth the world throws at you.
Just out of interest do you carry wetwipes and/or soap and towels when you go out? Do you touch any surface on your travels or do you make the conscious decision to avoid touching anything? Is winter your favorite time of the year for the simple reason you can wear gloves and NOT look like a freak? |
 That's funny but in defense of articulate ink, I also do some of the things s/he does because if I don't, it seems I have a cold 60% of the time, when I'm working as a teacher. Of course, it doesn't help that I see more than 200 kids a day.... But other than my extreme vigilance at the kindergarten, I'm not a germ freak at all. I guess some of us have lower resistance and need to take more precautions.
Maybe articulate ink also sees upwards of 20 snotty noses a day and 10 explosive sneezes, a couple bloody noses and at least one vomit a week AND has the same kids running up for hugs and kisses on the cheek after each of the 9 classes s/he teaches a day. Then it wouldn't seem so freakish.... would it? |
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peppermint
Joined: 13 May 2003
Location: traversing the minefields of caddishness.
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| Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2005 3:05 am Post subject: |
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| I keep a bottle of antibacterial hand stuff in my desk at work- because of the 500+ lovable little virus factories I deal with every week, and the absence of soap, hot water or towels (paper or otherwise) in the school washrooms. |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2005 5:06 am Post subject: |
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| fidel wrote: |
| articulate_ink wrote: |
I stocked up on antibacterial hand-cleaning gel (both Dial and Purell); it's necessary after touching the wet, nasty doorknob in the restroom. Since there's no soap and nothing with which to dry the hands, this is a necessary step. In addition, I keep a clean hand towel at my desk. When I need a new one, they're 3000 KRW at the Family Mart around the corner. (I always forget to bring them from home after laundering them.)
If you need the hand sanitizer, you can get it at Dongdaemun (Doota) in one of the American-goods vendors downstairs. Down here in Bundang, there's a little store in Jeongja-dong where you can buy the stuff too (as well as lots of other useful imported items). PM me if you need details on Jeongja. |
Wow, I never knew there were people like you, so fanatically concerned about 'germs' that you 'stock up' on cleaning products Each to his own I guess, but it must make your life a living germ hell when you step outside and come into contact with all the filth the world throws at you.
Just out of interest do you carry wetwipes and/or soap and towels when you go out? Do you touch any surface on your travels or do you make the conscious decision to avoid touching anything? Is winter your favorite time of the year for the simple reason you can wear gloves and NOT look like a freak? |
As Peppermint points out, children are in a perfect environment for catching and passing on whatever is going on around there. I sure as hell come down with the latest and greatest cold while my GF seems to miss 2/3s of what's going around. We both have similar habits in terms of our out and about activities (subway riding etc). The difference is I come into close contact with 50 perfect disease vectors a day, who come into contact with hundreds of other perfect disease vectors. Given doctors say the best way to avoid getting a cold or flu is simply washing your hands often, it's not unreasonable to, you know, wash your hands after dealing with a lot of kids. Having a cold every month sucks.
Don't judge Fidel, lest you be judged. |
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fidel
Joined: 07 Feb 2003
Location: North Shore NZ
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| Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2005 2:23 pm Post subject: |
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| mindmetoo wrote: |
| fidel wrote: |
| articulate_ink wrote: |
I stocked up on antibacterial hand-cleaning gel (both Dial and Purell); it's necessary after touching the wet, nasty doorknob in the restroom. Since there's no soap and nothing with which to dry the hands, this is a necessary step. In addition, I keep a clean hand towel at my desk. When I need a new one, they're 3000 KRW at the Family Mart around the corner. (I always forget to bring them from home after laundering them.)
If you need the hand sanitizer, you can get it at Dongdaemun (Doota) in one of the American-goods vendors downstairs. Down here in Bundang, there's a little store in Jeongja-dong where you can buy the stuff too (as well as lots of other useful imported items). PM me if you need details on Jeongja. |
Wow, I never knew there were people like you, so fanatically concerned about 'germs' that you 'stock up' on cleaning products Each to his own I guess, but it must make your life a living germ hell when you step outside and come into contact with all the filth the world throws at you.
Just out of interest do you carry wetwipes and/or soap and towels when you go out? Do you touch any surface on your travels or do you make the conscious decision to avoid touching anything? Is winter your favorite time of the year for the simple reason you can wear gloves and NOT look like a freak? |
As Peppermint points out, children are in a perfect environment for catching and passing on whatever is going on around there. I sure as hell come down with the latest and greatest cold while my GF seems to miss 2/3s of what's going around. We both have similar habits in terms of our out and about activities (subway riding etc). The difference is I come into close contact with 50 perfect disease vectors a day, who come into contact with hundreds of other perfect disease vectors. Given doctors say the best way to avoid getting a cold or flu is simply washing your hands often, it's not unreasonable to, you know, wash your hands after dealing with a lot of kids. Having a cold every month sucks.
Don't judge Fidel, lest you be judged. |
Yes Lord, I'll heed your sage advice!
Mindmetoo is correct, washing your hands does help ward off the cold but I get the impression that some people are a lot more fanatical than your average Joe and take it to more compulsive levels.
Here are some other helpful hints
The best way to ward off the flu is to have a flu 'shot'.
Limit exposure to infected people. (little difficult if your teaching but personally I banish my infected students to the rear of the room facing the back wall, hell no point getting everyone infected because their parents are negligent)
Practice healthy habits.
Eating a balanced diet, getting enough sleep, and exercising
Drink up and rest.
Fluids such as water, juice, soup, and non-caffeinated beverages can help loosen mucus, keep you hydrated, and make you feel better, especially if you have a fever. Alcohol and drinks containing caffeine may have a dehydrating effect
Choose over-the-counter (OTC) medicines that are appropriate for your symptoms.
Be careful not to double up on ingredients . |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2005 9:36 pm Post subject: |
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The best way to ward off the flu is to have a flu 'shot'.
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A recent study suggests flu shots, notably in the elderly, are far less effective than previously thought:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9438511/ |
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fidel
Joined: 07 Feb 2003
Location: North Shore NZ
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| Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2005 11:55 pm Post subject: |
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Far less effective implies a certain amount of effectiveness which is certainly better than none at all.
Plus, not to many elderly on these forums I would think, so it's a moot point.  |
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Qinella
Joined: 25 Feb 2005
Location: the crib
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| Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2005 5:53 am Post subject: |
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At my hagwon there is neither soap nor towel, and certainly not this luxurious commodity "paper towel" you people speak of. In fact, the main store in my little city just started carrying paper towels a few weeks ago. Before that, the city was barren of them.
Like a couple others here, I also have a bottle of hand sanitizer at my desk. I have a friend from home who is in the US Army, so I can get on the military base and visit their US-style shops, which carry it. One bottle has lasted me a few months, easily.
I see nothing obsessive or germophobic about using hand sanitizer or washing your hands often. How silly. To reduce such practices to absurdity is itself absurd. Fidel, what do you do, lick your students' hands and noses as they come in to class just to show how tough your white blood cells are?
Cheers,
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Wed Sep 28, 2005 4:34 pm Post subject: |
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I see nothing obsessive or germophobic about using hand sanitizer or washing your hands often. How silly. To reduce such practices to absurdity is itself absurd. Fidel, what do you do, lick your students' hands and noses as they come in to class just to show how tough your white blood cells are?
Cheers,
Q~ |
So Fidel calls you a freak because you don't want to get a cold every month. Fidel is living in a glass house. He is a married man with a kid and the best he can offer his wife and child is a job as a hagwon monkey. I'll be a germ freak over being a career failure before my wife and child.
"What does your daddy do?"
"My daddy can't get a real job..." |
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