|
Korean Job Discussion Forums
"The Internet's Meeting Place for ESL/EFL Teachers from Around the World!"
|
| View previous topic :: View next topic |
| Author |
Message |
TheUrbanMyth
Joined: 28 Jan 2003
Location: Retired
|
 Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 2:13 am Post subject: |
 |
|
| Not so fast. There are enough people that hate teaching or suck at it who are desperate enough to go for such a job. That's why these jobs keep cropping up. After all if nobody applied for it, they would be forced to raise their wages for it. There is an unlimited supply of suckers as P.T. Barnum (sp?) was wont to note. |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
Real Reality
Joined: 10 Jan 2003
Location: Seoul
|
| Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 2:30 am Post subject: |
|
|
| TheUrbanMyth wrote: |
| Not so fast. There are enough people that hate teaching or suck at it who are desperate enough to go for such a job. That's why these jobs keep cropping up. After all if nobody applied for it, they would be forced to raise their wages for it. There is an unlimited supply of suckers as P.T. Barnum (sp?) was wont to note. |
Don't forget about the "missionary teachers."
Missionary teacher says,
"Money, housing, and benefits are not important. Teaching is the only important thing. Besides, most Koreans are not as wealthy as Canadians."
They will work for any kind of salary and benefits. The boss refers to them as the model to follow. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
schwa
Joined: 18 Jan 2003
Location: Yap
|
| Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 4:20 am Post subject: |
|
|
Maybe I'm nuts but I see potential in that offer.
If I were inclined to live in Seoul (which I'm not) I could see it as a part-time job opportunity that could provide a potentially huge upside in terms of making connections with influential people. City Hall certainly has a different cachet than Mrs Kim's hogwan.
I'd guess they'd approve a secondary job & an overall nice income would be well in reach. Or if you fit in well at the jobplace other lucrative in-house opportunities might very well present themselves. The involvement with international organizations might be fun & interesting.
I'd surely ask a lot of questions before signing anything but it could be a uniquely promising postion.
7000 won is piffle -- a small pitcher of beer. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
BigBlackEquus
Joined: 05 Jul 2005
Location: Lotte controls Asia with bad chocolate!
|
| Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 5:11 am Post subject: |
|
|
| Pyongshin Sangja wrote: |
How do you know so much about me for a gay, black Canadian that I've never met before? |
By the way: where did you go to elementary school, junior high, high school and university? None of your business, if you can't find it on here.
Who is the premier of Ontario? Dalton McGuinty
Who won the Stanley Cup in 1993? I'll give you a hint. In 1993 some members of this team took it for a swim in Patrick Roy's pool that year. 
What is a "Tim-Bit?" I will only answer that if you tell me how much time you spend at Tim Horton's.
What is the largest subway network in Canada? I'll give you a hint, and you can answer it yourself: Union Station and Eglinton
Which province is the only perfect rectangle? Saskatchewan
Who was Mr. Dressup's androgynous puppet friend? Oh, I liked Ernie Coombs. Casey was darned sexy.
The androgynous puppet's pet dog? Finnegan, but his fur was gettin' a little raggy toward the end. I heard he was molested by Mr. Rodgers.
How much was tuition when you went to school? OH, puhhlleeeezeeee. About as much money as a Korean woman would pay you for sex.
How did you pay for your schooling? Again, oh puhhleeezeeee. Mommy popped me out, and BLAM! Edumacation!!!
What is the highest tax bracket in Canada? Isn't it still around 29%? Never ask these kinds of deep money questions to a brother slaving away in Kooohhrrreehhhaaaaaaa.
If you were arrested by the Surete, where would you be? Ever been arrested by da Surete du Quebec?
How many political parties have seats in the House of Commons? Something like 5 (affiliated with parties) plus a few independents. I hate politiks.
OK,
I'm gettin' bored, and I'm drunk off of my azzz. Just sittin' back chillin' with a little poutine.
All of this from a man who posts on here regularly that he works for a university.  I don't know much of anything about you, past what you post here.
You wanted to know how I knew! |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
mithridates
Joined: 03 Mar 2003
Location: President's office, Korean Space Agency
|
| Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 7:04 am Post subject: |
|
|
| Schwa might be right; it says no more than 20 hours a week so for all we know it could be an average of 10-15. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
cypher
Joined: 08 Nov 2003
|
| Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 5:38 am Post subject: |
|
|
| Has anyone here worked as an editor/proofreader back home? If so, what do you think they're paid?! Unless you're THE editor.... For a part-time editing job back in Canada, that's not great but it's not bad either. If it weren't for the lack of housing, I'd be tempted. [/b] |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
|
| Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 4:56 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| BigBlackEquus wrote: |
| Pyongshin Sangja wrote: |
How do you know so much about me for a gay, black Canadian that I've never met before? |
By the way: where did you go to elementary school, junior high, high school and university? None of your business, if you can't find it on here.
Who is the premier of Ontario? Dalton McGuinty
Who won the Stanley Cup in 1993? I'll give you a hint. In 1993 some members of this team took it for a swim in Patrick Roy's pool that year.
What is a "Tim-Bit?" I will only answer that if you tell me how much time you spend at Tim Horton's.
What is the largest subway network in Canada? I'll give you a hint, and you can answer it yourself: Union Station and Eglinton
Which province is the only perfect rectangle? Saskatchewan
Who was Mr. Dressup's androgynous puppet friend? Oh, I liked Ernie Coombs. Casey was darned sexy.
The androgynous puppet's pet dog? Finnegan, but his fur was gettin' a little raggy toward the end. I heard he was molested by Mr. Rodgers.
How much was tuition when you went to school? OH, puhhlleeeezeeee. About as much money as a Korean woman would pay you for sex.
How did you pay for your schooling? Again, oh puhhleeezeeee. Mommy popped me out, and BLAM! Edumacation!!!
What is the highest tax bracket in Canada? Isn't it still around 29%? Never ask these kinds of deep money questions to a brother slaving away in Kooohhrrreehhhaaaaaaa.
If you were arrested by the Surete, where would you be? Ever been arrested by da Surete du Quebec?
How many political parties have seats in the House of Commons? Something like 5 (affiliated with parties) plus a few independents. I hate politiks.
OK,
I'm gettin' bored, and I'm drunk off of my azzz. Just sittin' back chillin' with a little poutine.
All of this from a man who posts on here regularly that he works for a university. I don't know much of anything about you, past what you post here.
You wanted to know how I knew! |
Derrek can use google too!
Now here's an interesting idea. Being a Derrek sock sock. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
jacl
Joined: 31 Oct 2005
|
| Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 5:08 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| Sounds like a crap job. Crap pay. Those are one of the ones that I scroll through and see the pay and hit the back button before my page finishes scrolling. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Zyzyfer
Joined: 29 Jan 2003
Location: who, what, where, when, why, how?
|
| Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 5:19 pm Post subject: |
|
|
People are complaining about the pay, but I'm sure some F2 folks who can pick up extra work easily now will apply. Considering what I do and what I make for it, the only problem that I see with the job is that it's asking for a ridiculous amount of experience. It would pad a resume nicely.
$$ Bling Bling $$ Do it for the money $$ |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
BigBlackEquus
Joined: 05 Jul 2005
Location: Lotte controls Asia with bad chocolate!
|
| Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 8:00 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| mindmetoo wrote: |
| BigBlackEquus wrote: |
| Pyongshin Sangja wrote: |
How do you know so much about me for a gay, black Canadian that I've never met before? |
By the way: where did you go to elementary school, junior high, high school and university? None of your business, if you can't find it on here.
Who is the premier of Ontario? Dalton McGuinty
Who won the Stanley Cup in 1993? I'll give you a hint. In 1993 some members of this team took it for a swim in Patrick Roy's pool that year.
What is a "Tim-Bit?" I will only answer that if you tell me how much time you spend at Tim Horton's.
What is the largest subway network in Canada? I'll give you a hint, and you can answer it yourself: Union Station and Eglinton
Which province is the only perfect rectangle? Saskatchewan
Who was Mr. Dressup's androgynous puppet friend? Oh, I liked Ernie Coombs. Casey was darned sexy.
The androgynous puppet's pet dog? Finnegan, but his fur was gettin' a little raggy toward the end. I heard he was molested by Mr. Rodgers.
How much was tuition when you went to school? OH, puhhlleeeezeeee. About as much money as a Korean woman would pay you for sex.
How did you pay for your schooling? Again, oh puhhleeezeeee. Mommy popped me out, and BLAM! Edumacation!!!
What is the highest tax bracket in Canada? Isn't it still around 29%? Never ask these kinds of deep money questions to a brother slaving away in Kooohhrrreehhhaaaaaaa.
If you were arrested by the Surete, where would you be? Ever been arrested by da Surete du Quebec?
How many political parties have seats in the House of Commons? Something like 5 (affiliated with parties) plus a few independents. I hate politiks.
OK,
I'm gettin' bored, and I'm drunk off of my azzz. Just sittin' back chillin' with a little poutine.
All of this from a man who posts on here regularly that he works for a university. I don't know much of anything about you, past what you post here.
You wanted to know how I knew! |
Derrek can use google too!
Now here's an interesting idea. Being a Derrek sock sock. |
You're the only Derrek sock around here. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
JongnoGuru
Joined: 25 May 2004
Location: peeing on your doorstep
|
| Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 10:36 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| BigBlackEquus wrote: |
| mindmetoo wrote: |
| BigBlackEquus wrote: |
| Pyongshin Sangja wrote: |
How do you know so much about me for a gay, black Canadian that I've never met before? |
By the way: where did you go to elementary school, junior high, high school and university? None of your business, if you can't find it on here.
|
Derrek can use google too!
Now here's an interesting idea. Being a Derrek sock sock. |
You're the only Derrek sock around here. |
I am he as you are he as you are me and we are all together.
(someone had to say it eventually) |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
|
| Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 10:47 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| JongnoGuru wrote: |
| BigBlackEquus wrote: |
| mindmetoo wrote: |
| BigBlackEquus wrote: |
| Pyongshin Sangja wrote: |
How do you know so much about me for a gay, black Canadian that I've never met before? |
By the way: where did you go to elementary school, junior high, high school and university? None of your business, if you can't find it on here.
|
Derrek can use google too!
Now here's an interesting idea. Being a Derrek sock sock. |
You're the only Derrek sock around here. |
I am he as you are he as you are me and we are all together.
(someone had to say it eventually) |
True wisdom comes in knowing if we strip away the facade of our not-Americanness we're all Derrek.
I just want this jury-is-still-out-Derrek to go on the record regarding his feelings about Canadians having a 6 month tourist visa. As a "Canadian" BBE do you...
1) ...feel an overweening sense of pride that Canadians are so beloved we're accorded this special privilege?
2) ...believe this permissive Korean policy creates too many illegal teachers, cheapens the ESL teaching profession, and makes it harder for very tall American ESL teachers to score k-girls? |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
BigBlackEquus
Joined: 05 Jul 2005
Location: Lotte controls Asia with bad chocolate!
|
| Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2005 6:24 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| mindmetoo wrote: |
| JongnoGuru wrote: |
| BigBlackEquus wrote: |
| mindmetoo wrote: |
| BigBlackEquus wrote: |
| Pyongshin Sangja wrote: |
How do you know so much about me for a gay, black Canadian that I've never met before? |
By the way: where did you go to elementary school, junior high, high school and university? None of your business, if you can't find it on here.
|
Derrek can use google too!
Now here's an interesting idea. Being a Derrek sock sock. |
You're the only Derrek sock around here. |
I am he as you are he as you are me and we are all together.
(someone had to say it eventually) |
True wisdom comes in knowing if we strip away the facade of our not-Americanness we're all Derrek.
I just want this jury-is-still-out-Derrek to go on the record regarding his feelings about Canadians having a 6 month tourist visa. As a "Canadian" BBE do you...
1) ...feel an overweening sense of pride that Canadians are so beloved we're accorded this special privilege?
2) ...believe this permissive Korean policy creates too many illegal teachers, cheapens the ESL teaching profession, and makes it harder for very tall American ESL teachers to score k-girls? |
1. No. Simple agreement between two countries. You scub my back, I'll scrub yours kind of thing.
2. No, but I do feel it is something that is being abused a little bit. Just as there are a lot of Koreans abusing similar visas to Canada. Can't mention one without the other.
And I'm not interested in girls.
Gee, Derrek/Mindmetoo, you just couldn't resist the, '...believe this permissive Korean policy creates too many illegal teachers, cheapens the ESL teaching profession...' swipe against Canadians, could you?
You can't get away with direct swipes against Canadians, so you have to make indirect ones.
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Ilsanman
Joined: 15 Aug 2003
Location: Bucheon, Korea
|
| Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2005 5:05 pm Post subject: |
|
|
| That job can go fist itself. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
|
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
|
|
FAQ
Search
Memberlist
Usergroups
Register
Profile
Log in to check your private messages
Log in
