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DHC
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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 Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2005 9:54 pm Post subject: F-2 People Getting F-5 |
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Some weeks ago , I posted this info. Don't know what happened to it. I applied for my F-5. The process took me less than 1 hour. My F-2 was extended until the F-5 is approved which could take up to six months due to staff shortage and background checks. Anyone who has held an F-2 or F-2-1 visa for two years (that means 730 days not 2 calendar years) may apply. The following is needed:
- Passport
- ARC
- Spouse's Family Register ( Hojok deung bon ) showing marriage. Official copy not over 3 months old.
- Spouse's legal residence paper ( Joo min deung bon ) not over 3 month's old.
- Application for F-5 (obtained at Imm.)
- Application for F-2 renewal ( 0btained at Imm. Multiple entry permit combined on this form.)
- Financial guarentee form (Obtained at Imm.)
- 50,000 Won F-5 application fee.
- 20,000 Won F-2 renewal fee.
- 50,000 Won multiple entry fee.
- 1 recent photo. You will need another photo the day you get your new ARC card.
You are given a receipt that shows that you have applied for the F-5 and will be notified when to come to Immigration to have your passport status and ARC changed. Passport status will be changed and a new ARC issued in about an hour. |
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itaewonguy
Joined: 25 Mar 2003
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| Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2005 1:14 am Post subject: |
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hahhahaha I bet I would fail.. they would probably say no to me..
I remember I was late to renew my visa once. something like 5 days!
I didnt really seem that concerned with the matter when I walked in..
but I get get called up to the head dudes office upstairs.. I go up and im all chilled.. he is like "you have comitted a serious crime!!!"
im like.  really? emmm whats that?
he then gives me the korean stare 
I get straight to the point..
"so how much will the fine be"?
he is like.. you think just paying money is gonna solved this problem?
im like.. " yes! " why what you think is going to happen?
he is like.. I can deport you!!
IM like ok! do what you gotta do!!
Im not going to stand here tell you how to do your job!!
he then says.. do you want me to deport you!!?
im like.. what do you think?
he then starts to go through my profile..
he pulls out ohh you have been deported once, exited once, you have missed your visa renewals twice, and once for your daughter!
and your address renewal you didnt notify us..
you have 7 offenses here!!!! you are a real criminal!!!
CRIMINAL???? hahahhahaha
im like SO.. im in alittle bit of a hurry!! how much will the fine be!!!?
he loses it!!
you think I am joking!???
no but I know and you know. you are going to fine me!!
so why dont we stop with the BS and trying to consult me and just get down to the facts!! its all about money!!!
he is like ok 200.000 won!!
im like great!! here you go!! and drop the money on the table!!
hahaah BUT!!
it doesnt stop there..
he asks me.. you are on a f2 visa you have been for many years..
you have never gotten a work visa!!
im like so!!!
how do you support yourself?
"thats not any of your business" but if you must know!!
I make my korean wife work 15 hours a day, three jobs and bring home the money which I spend drinking with my friends and going to room salons...
he replies..
are you kidding me?
never heard a korean reply like that.. are you kidding me?
I just say I will like a receipt for that money ... 
and then walk out of his office..
hahahhahahah
man I love teasing these guys... its a sick pasttime but they ask for it!
dont get me started on the stuff I have done to police officers! hahahaha
but yeah IM sure my file has a HUGE RED MARK ACROSS IT!!
Im not even gonna apply for the F5..
ill just keep making my 2 year drive 30minutes down the road and renewing my visa and have to pay for the entry visa.. only 50bucks..
thats the avantages! nothing else.. so whats the point!
f2 and f5 are same when it comes to work now.. |
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bellum99
Joined: 23 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2005 4:01 am Post subject: |
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Nope....i want to be the boss not the slave. This is only possible with the F5. In Korea you will always be a peon working for a boss, or your wife who owns your visa. Don't get confused about the visas because it really does matter. I want to own property in my name (not my wife's) and I want to be able to make even a simple legal contract. I hate depending on my wife for everything and needing her name and credit history for everything. Sometimes I feel like a lesser man because of this huge dependence on her and I am sick of it.
The F5 will allow even more freedom and the right to be a "legal" person in Korea. We men married to korean women are like women back in the 18th century. We can't own land, can't vote and we really can't own property. I want more freedom. |
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bellum99
Joined: 23 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2005 8:42 pm Post subject: |
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DHC: Man you missed one very important piece of information. There is a Korean Language Interview. I just came back from immigration now and after I filled out everything and handed in the application, he told me about the stupid Language interview.
They will call me soon for the interview and I pick up my documents on Dec 6th. The interview will be soon. They are processing the application for next month. The interview can kill your chance to get the visa. This is a new development.
**** Note: No one has the F5 yet because it will finalized for next month. So I answered my question. No F2-1 person has changed to a F5 because it isn't possible right now. Starting next month people will begin getting them. |
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DHC
Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 1:05 am Post subject: F-2 -and F-5 visa |
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| I was interviewed at the time of my application . No further interview was mentioned. |
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chiaa
Joined: 23 Aug 2003
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| Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 1:26 am Post subject: |
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Wasn't the F-5 essentially made so foreign women have protection against her husband beating the shit out of them and not losing their Korean born child. (there were complaints by women who married farmers)
So, if she does not speak Korean hubby can still take the child away by kicking the wife out of the country because he uh felt like it?
Does not make much fucking sense to me. Bellum99 I would bet money that if you had another officer the rules would change. I would try to find the written regulations on this one. They have to exist somewhere. |
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bellum99
Joined: 23 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 2:58 am Post subject: |
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| They mentioned a personal interview in Korean. It sounded very bad....since I don't speak Korean well. My listening is okay but not my speaking. They also were checking closely into how much money I and my wife had. I was okay but that could be a sticky point also. I will let you know what happens. I will know Dec 6th when I go to pick up my passport and id card and financial papers. If they call then I have to do an interview and they said eveyone has to do one. |
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Mr. Pink
Joined: 21 Oct 2003
Location: China
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| Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 2:53 pm Post subject: |
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| bellum99 wrote: |
Nope....i want to be the boss not the slave. This is only possible with the F5. In Korea you will always be a peon working for a boss, or your wife who owns your visa. Don't get confused about the visas because it really does matter. I want to own property in my name (not my wife's) and I want to be able to make even a simple legal contract. I hate depending on my wife for everything and needing her name and credit history for everything. Sometimes I feel like a lesser man because of this huge dependence on her and I am sick of it.
The F5 will allow even more freedom and the right to be a "legal" person in Korea. We men married to korean women are like women back in the 18th century. We can't own land, can't vote and we really can't own property. I want more freedom. |
We can certainly own land. I don't know where you got that opinion. If we divorce we still retain our F-2 status as well. I have my family assets in my name, not my wife's. When I submitted my financial statements to immigration at the time we got the F-2 visa they didn't say anything about stuff being in my name.
I suggest you stop feeling like a lesser man, sure some things might be easier to have your wife do because of the language thing, but there is nothing wrong with putting your apartment in your name (if you own one). |
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bellum99
Joined: 23 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 4:50 pm Post subject: |
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I actually don't believe that you own anything. I tried but the myriad of taxes made it impossible. I would love to know how people registered the land, calculated correct taxation and verified the correct size of the land. These things are hard for a korean to do correctly and if I were people, I would make sure they are correct. I went to buy land also, but the real estate people were not correct about the land dimensions and they weren't correct about the taxation involved and the registration of the property was a whole new hell. Every office I went to said:
1: We don't know if a foreigner can own it.
2: We don't know how to do it.
3: We have to check and see what to do. |
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bellum99
Joined: 23 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 3:59 am Post subject: |
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| Anyway...I will post here if anything new happens. If I get called for an interview then I will post about it here. If anyone else goes through the process they should post information here also. Please post here if you have any information. |
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Mr. Pink
Joined: 21 Oct 2003
Location: China
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| Posted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 4:04 am Post subject: |
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| bellum99 wrote: |
I actually don't believe that you own anything. I tried but the myriad of taxes made it impossible. I would love to know how people registered the land, calculated correct taxation and verified the correct size of the land. These things are hard for a korean to do correctly and if I were people, I would make sure they are correct. I went to buy land also, but the real estate people were not correct about the land dimensions and they weren't correct about the taxation involved and the registration of the property was a whole new hell. Every office I went to said:
1: We don't know if a foreigner can own it.
2: We don't know how to do it.
3: We have to check and see what to do. |
I would suggest you see a professional. It could be an apartment is considered different from raw land...as an apartment is like a CONDO is back home.
The problem you describe sounds like a typical Korean one, most people don't know jack. I always laugh when I try to do my taxes because no one knows anything about it, and I as a foreigner managed to figure out more than most Koreans seem to know.
If buying land here is close to like in Canada, you have to have the plot surveyed after you buy it for tax purposes, also you register it as a certain plot, IE farm, residential, commercial etc. |
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bellum99
Joined: 23 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2005 8:14 pm Post subject: |
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| Still no call yet about the interview....they have to call me before the 6th because that's when they said to pick up the F5 visa. I hope you guys are right and I don't have to bother with some lame interview. |
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Kyrei
Joined: 22 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 6:47 pm Post subject: |
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| bellum99 wrote: |
I actually don't believe that you own anything. I tried but the myriad of taxes made it impossible. I would love to know how people registered the land, calculated correct taxation and verified the correct size of the land. These things are hard for a korean to do correctly and if I were people, I would make sure they are correct. I went to buy land also, but the real estate people were not correct about the land dimensions and they weren't correct about the taxation involved and the registration of the property was a whole new hell. Every office I went to said:
1: We don't know if a foreigner can own it.
2: We don't know how to do it.
3: We have to check and see what to do. |
Bellum99 We certainly can own land in Korea (or at least apartment space). I know because I do. I bought our apartment when the landlord decided to sell (he gave it to us at a fair price). My retired father-in-law who has far too much time on his hands, acted as the real estate agent (after much research on the net for papers etc.). He saved us a both (original owner and me) a HUGE agent fee for doing so. There was no need to calculate the size etc. since the original owner had all that information. My father-in-law arranged the bank loan necesary for the payment (again because he was bored sitting at home and watching paduk TV). It was all handled easily and cleanly. My being a foreigner meant nothing, other than that I had to get a registered dojang stamp from the Gu Office for the paper work. I found some good Chinese characters for my name and had it registered with no trouble at all. Now my wife holds my VISA (F2-1) and I own the apartment so we are on equal footing... heheh good for negotiations.
I will be looking into the F5 visa thing as soon as the semester is over. If there are any further updates, please post them! Great work so far. |
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chiaa
Joined: 23 Aug 2003
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| Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2005 11:06 pm Post subject: |
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| Still no call yet about the interview....they have to call me before the 6th because that's when they said to pick up the F5 visa. I hope you guys are right and I don't have to bother with some lame interview. |
So they said it was going to be READY on the sixth (they currently have your passport etc...)? If its going to be ready, which I would take it as meaning everything is ok with your papers, then you got the damn thing.
If your "receipt" says the sixth, I would not answer the phone and just show up on the sixth. |
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bellum99
Joined: 23 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2005 1:50 am Post subject: |
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Yup, they have my arc card + pasport and all the paperwork needed to get the visa. They said to come get the stuff on the 6th of December. I haven't gotten a call about the stupid interview yet. I doubt that I will.
I think they call for an interview if they are going to deny the visa to someone. So far, no one called me. |
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