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Britain comes one step closer to Orwell's vision
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igotthisguitar



Joined: 08 Apr 2003
Location: South Korea (Permanent Vacation)

PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 6:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

NEWSFLASH !!!

Orwell's vision is quickly coming to life simply in England? Laughing

Less we be deceived ...

EVERY KEY-STROKE IS RECORDED ... Idea
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_Lantern_%28software%29

PHONE CONVERSATIONS (e.g.)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ECHELON


WAR IS PEACE

IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH

FREEDOM IS SLAVERY


Just imagine the fun & games that could be had with all those high-tech gadgets & toys Twisted Evil
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Gunther



Joined: 01 Sep 2007
Location: opposingdigits.com

PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 6:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I don't like the idea of being photographed 600 times a day just going about my business, I certainly don't want to be tracked. But if they removed these cameras from the buses and tube I wouldn't feel as safe.
Typical... Rolling Eyes While in Korea... Maybe you should take a few self-defense lessons, because if someone's gonna jump you I bet they wouldn't smile for the camer 1st... maybe then they'll implant a camera in your forehead for you, you'll probably be the safest then ...
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Gunther



Joined: 01 Sep 2007
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 6:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

igotthisguitar wrote:
NEWSFLASH !!!

Orwell's vision is quickly coming to life simply in England? Laughing

Less we be deceived ...

EVERY KEY-STROKE IS RECORDED ... Idea
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_Lantern_%28software%29

PHONE CONVERSATIONS (e.g.)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ECHELON


WAR IS PEACE

IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH

FREEDOM IS SLAVERY


Just imagine the fun & games that could be had with all those high-tech gadgets & toys Twisted Evil


and the few that can still think for themself will have to pretend they zombies too...
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SPINOZA



Joined: 10 Jun 2005
Location: $eoul

PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 6:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the article in the OP wrote:
Senior police officers have described the surveillance network as possibly the biggest advance in the technology of crime detection and prevention since the introduction of DNA fingerprinting.


Cool.

the article in the OP wrote:
But others concerned about civil liberties will be worried that the movements of millions of law-abiding people will soon be routinely recorded and kept on a central computer database for years.


Perhaps those who have this concern can explain how this affects civil liberties, because it's not clear.

the article in the OP wrote:
In the process, the data centre will provide unrivalled opportunities to gather intelligence data on the movements and associations of organised gangs and terrorist suspects whenever they use cars, vans or motorcycles.


Sounds good to me in the meantime, but the long-term goal should be to fight crime and terrorism by ending prohibition and ending Middle Eastern oil being the lifeblood of modern civilization.



the article in the OP wrote:
"The security services will use it for purposes that I frankly don't have access to. It's part of public protection. If the security services did not have access to this, we'd be negligent."


I agree. I also think references to George Orwell are tiresome, cliched, pejorative and unhelpful.
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Mix1



Joined: 08 May 2007

PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 10:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

igotthisguitar wrote:
NEWSFLASH !!!

Orwell's vision is quickly coming to life simply in England? Laughing

Less we be deceived ...

EVERY KEY-STROKE IS RECORDED ... Idea
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_Lantern_%28software%29

PHONE CONVERSATIONS (e.g.)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ECHELON


WAR IS PEACE

IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH

FREEDOM IS SLAVERY


Just imagine the fun & games that could be had with all those high-tech gadgets & toys Twisted Evil


Gee, I feel safer already! Rolling Eyes
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patongpanda



Joined: 06 Feb 2007

PostPosted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 8:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Listening devices and hidden cameras are being used by police in London to help infiltrate gangs of youths.

Detectives hope the hi-tech gadgets - which can be placed in cars, homes or on street corners - can help yield vital intelligence.

The technology is already deployed in Lambeth, south London, where a number of teenage gangs are based.

A police spokesman said the devices are used to gather information but any evidence is not admissible in court.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/london/7050493.stm
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igotthisguitar



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 3:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

SPINOZA wrote:
I agree. I also think references to George Orwell are tiresome, cliched, pejorative and unhelpful.

*yawn*

Yah, Orwell. What did he really know, eh Spinny?

That reminds me, is 1984 still even studied in high schools?

What of Animal Farm?

Cliched, and frequently quoted ... because it's so far from the truth.

DOUBLE-PLUS GOOD !!! Rolling Eyes
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patongpanda



Joined: 06 Feb 2007

PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 6:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's some thoughtcrime to continue the Orwellian theme:

British school launches racism investigation against four-year-old boy

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/10/20/nrace120.xml
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Kuros



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 7:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've always thought that authoritarians such as Hitler and Stalin would be placed in hell under the supervision of conspiracy theorists and the uber-paranoid.
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