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just because
Joined: 01 Aug 2003
Location: Changwon - 4964
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| Yu_Bum_suk wrote: |
| When everyone's sober again you should sit down with your more decent co-workers and explain to him that you'll be civil at work but you're never going to see each other or do anything together outside work. Let him know that the moment he ever lays a hand on one of you in the future you will be calling the police. He should know that he's blown it and does not deserve the company of his co-workers any longer. That kind of behaviour is inexcuseable and you have no need to tolerate it. |
This is some good advice......
Be really firm with him and he might come around....
I too had a psycho ex-coworker here in korea who I did end up taking to the police...be firm and make it known to him that the days where you and him are socialising are over |
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bellum99
Joined: 23 Jan 2003
Location: don't need to know
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Basically...you guys were acting like a little group of "cool" boys and probably excluding him. You had to go out with him that night because it was a school event. He probably has noticed the crap you guys are giving him and it was too much.
Let me guess....he is new and you and your friends didn't really want to socialize with him. He isn't insane...eventually snide comments and school yard crap will get you in physical problems. I myself had a little dose of this in high school and I kicked the crap out of the leader until he shut his mouth (took a few days). I was never sorry about it and consider them justified and well-deserved beatings.
A big mouth will get your butt in trouble eventually. |
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jinks
Joined: 27 Oct 2004
Location: Formerly: Lower North Island
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| Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2006 5:43 am Post subject: |
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Basically...you guys were acting like a little group of "cool" boys and probably excluding him. You had to go out with him that night because it was a school event. He probably has noticed the crap you guys are giving him and it was too much.
Let me guess....he is new and you and your friends didn't really want to socialize with him. He isn't insane...eventually snide comments and school yard crap will get you in physical problems. I myself had a little dose of this in high school and I kicked the crap out of the leader until he shut his mouth (took a few days). I was never sorry about it and consider them justified and well-deserved beatings.
A big mouth will get your butt in trouble eventually. |
I disagree.
I have felt the chill of social exclusion at the hogwan where I am currently working. At school we are all adult and professional, but on weekends or vacations I am never included in any of the group activities. BooHo! at first it kind of gripped my *beep*, but I just had to get over it and make my own friends outside of school - though I do have one co-worker friend.
I have asked some of my other colleagues why they never invite me, and they say it is because I am always busy doing my own thing, kind of a Catch22 as I only do my own thing because I am not included in theirs.
Anyway, kicking butt and punching noses would have done very little to ameliorate my situation, in fact it would only have made it worse.
The Best Revenge is Living Well.
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994
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| Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2006 5:50 am Post subject: |
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It must just be me, but I still want to know why he felt the way he did before the attack.
I've seen enough crap handed out by people here to 'justify' an attack. (Not really, since I don't think words really justify a physical attack, but I think you know what I mean.) |
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jay-shi
Joined: 09 May 2004
Location: On tour
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| Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2006 6:04 am Post subject: |
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| Ya-ta Boy wrote: |
It must just be me, but I still want to know why he felt the way he did before the attack.
I've seen enough crap handed out by people here to 'justify' an attack. (Not really, since I don't think words really justify a physical attack, but I think you know what I mean.) |
I can assure you there was no words prior to this assault that may have been construed as a verbal attack. We all know who likes who and where our positions lie at the school (I am number one waegook and it's disturbing to some, but from what I heard from my director when I told hm "him or me goes", doesn't make that much of a difference) . I think this attack on me was brought upon by feelings of inadequacy and paranoia.
oh and bellum99 : We aren't in high school anymore.
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994
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| Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2006 6:52 am Post subject: |
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| I can assure you there was no words prior to this assault that may have been construed as a verbal attack. We all know who likes who and where our positions lie at the school (I am number one waegook and it's disturbing to some, but from what I heard from my director when I told hm "him or me goes", doesn't make that much of a difference) . |
Read that from his perspective: You are #1 at school and don't like him. You've told the director to fire him or you will quit. He goes out with you in a group and you tell him it's none of his business who you are calling because you and the 'in group' are going to the second place and he's not invited.
What is it about him you don't like? (You said you have told the director to fire him.) Are you really sure this atmosphere is not noticable to him? Just how stupid is this guy?
I've never noticed anything NotAmerican about your posts. In fact, I've always enjoyed them, as far as I remember. Could you be making jokes in the office that are not as innocent as you think they are? |
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chronicpride
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| Frankly, I think you should at least bring this up with the director, and not just for what he did to you, but also for the fact that this guy has been entrusted to work amongst children. |
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Grotto
Joined: 21 Mar 2004
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| Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2006 10:01 am Post subject: |
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| I'd love to see a post by the other guy to get the side of the story that seems suspiciously absent. |
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bellum99
Joined: 23 Jan 2003
Location: don't need to know
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| Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2006 3:51 pm Post subject: |
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| Yup ...me too. |
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Dan The Chainsawman
Joined: 05 May 2005
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Smacking someone around because you feel put out socially? Sounds like Junior High, not High School.
Tell your director it does not sound like this chap has all his marbles rattling around in the right order. |
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mindmetoo
Joined: 02 Feb 2004
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| If you've already accepted his apology, whining about it the next day to your boss just makes you seem like a girl. |
An excellent point. |
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ilovebdt
Joined: 03 Jun 2005
Location: Nr Seoul
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| jay-shi wrote: |
| I am number one waegook and it's disturbing to some, but from what I heard from my director when I told hm "him or me goes", doesn't make that much of a difference) |
Number one waegook? How so?  |
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Dan The Chainsawman
Joined: 05 May 2005
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Numbah 1 Waygook
That could be translated as King Shit of Crap Island. |
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bellum99
Joined: 23 Jan 2003
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Oh ho...I get it. He is number one teacher. He was there the longest and he has to keep his place. I know what it is...he has pride in being the head teacher of a nothing school in a nothing place. I have met exactly this kind of head teacher before. Nothing sucks like a pushy "superior" foreign teacher who knows everything and has the bosses ear.
In your mind you feel that he has taken some of your authority by not respecting you. Admit it, you have been really stupid to this guy... and remember...you won't always be at this school. |
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jay-shi
Joined: 09 May 2004
Location: On tour
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An update.
I told my director what happened last Friday night. He got my version of the facts then went to see the other teacher and got his acount.
We had a meeting this morning where the director proposed two solutions. The first being that I press charges and see what happens from there. The second being that the other teacher write a letter of apology where he also promised never to let anything like that happen again, and this letter would be sent to the school's lawyer for notarization (or something like that). The other teacher seemed to truly regret his actions, so I opted for the second option. I think he realizes how serious a situation this is. I also don't want to make his life miserable in Korea for something that he feels bad about doing in the first place. I am 99.9% sure this will never happen again.
So that's that. Thanks to all of you who expressed concern and offered advice. To those who went on and on about me, reading my mind, and what a horrible person I must be and what a pain it must be working with me .... oh well ... such is this forum.
| Ya-ta Boy wrote: |
What is it about him you don't like? (You said you have told the director to fire him.) Are you really sure this atmosphere is not noticable to him? Just how stupid is this guy?
I've never noticed anything NotAmerican about your posts. In fact, I've always enjoyed them, as far as I remember. Could you be making jokes in the office that are not as innocent as you think they are? |
I suggested to the director to fire him after he assaulted me. I have nothing against Americans. |
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