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laogaiguk

Joined: 06 Dec 2005 Location: somewhere in Korea
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Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 4:42 pm Post subject: |
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AQE has been operating for over 10 years. If it would have gone under, it would have already.
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I know very little of the business world or investing, but this sentence right here shows me enough that you are obviously in the same boat. |
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the_beaver

Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 5:25 pm Post subject: |
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Well, it's become increasingly obvious that when you posted:
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| I'm not a financials expert and thus why I have posted this thread. |
you were right.
The things a lack of good protein can do. . .
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| AQE has been operating for over 10 years. If it would have gone under, it would have already. |
Nope. Plenty of businesses go belly up after 10 years, or 20 years, or whenever.
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Here are some it's advs.
1. The CEO of AQE was the CEO or the owner of colt engineering.
http://www.colteng.com/coinfo.html
He has a proven track record of building a small time company into a top 50 canadian business. |
And maybe he can do something with this, but what you're missing is that he could be a great CEO and it might not make a lick of difference if whoever is supporting the company is sick of the over 16,000,000 dollars they've been in the hole for the last couple of years.
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| 2. AQE has patented technology that makes its a pioneer in its field. The technology has been in existence now for 10+ years. Over those 10 years, it has been proven over and over again. The environment is now at a stage where people are beginning to become aware of environmental issues. 10 years ago, it wasn't. Big, big diff. |
No. 10 years ago environmental awareness was about the same as today. I remember having the fucking shit rammed down my throat in high school 20 years go. There's little difference in awareness. And, the part that you aren't getting, it makes no difference if the financials cause the company to go bankrupt before appreciable revenue comes in.
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| 3. The revenue from this Texas deal will erase those debts and bring the company into the plus. |
The 25,000,000 deal you mention here isn't 25,000,000 profit and it might not even come in the form of a single payment. It'll be subject to horrendous Canadian taxes -- it won't cover the company's debt, just make it more manageable.
Look, here it is, no matter how much you want the company to succeed, no matter how much you want their products to help the environment, investing in this company is a gamble (as most penny stocks are).
Maybe something good will happen and some lucky investors will get rich. Looking through some of the news articles I see that a few municipalities are interested in their wastewater systems, and if they can increase sales (or get any sales) MAYBE it'll turn around.
If you feel (and you shouldn't rely on 'feelings' in the stock game) maybe you should drop some money on them. They're trading at .46 last I looked, and very lightly, so you should be able to buy plenty. Who knows? Maybe the stock gods will smile on you, because the financials sure aren't. |
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fiveeagles

Joined: 19 May 2005 Location: Vancouver
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Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2006 4:44 am Post subject: |
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I should have known you would take a swipe.
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Nope. Plenty of businesses go belly up after 10 years, or 20 years, or whenever.
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Beaver, you must realize that the longer a business is operating, the better it's chances of staying around. Sure business's go bankrupt after 10 or 20 years, but compare that with new start ups.
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| And maybe he can do something with this, but what you're missing is that he could be a great CEO and it might not make a lick of difference if whoever is supporting the company is sick of the over 16,000,000 dollars they've been in the hole for the last couple of years. |
Beaver, I worked in the engineering field for 7 years, before entering theology. One part of my job was to bring new technologies to the companies. It's called cost savings. Will the new technology be paid off in 2/3/4/5 years. Do you understand this idea?
This is also the case of AQE. I am a little shaky on this part, but I believe the 16,000,000 million owed is shareholder equity. How can that be a negative when it's in the investors hands?
On the front sheet, why does it look like it's up 11,000,000?
My dad is in Cuba, so when he gets back I will be asking him this stuff.
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No. 10 years ago environmental awareness was about the same as today. I remember having the *beep* *beep* rammed down my throat in high school 20 years go. There's little difference in awareness. And, the part that you aren't getting, it makes no difference if the financials cause the company to go bankrupt before appreciable revenue comes in. |
There's a difference between head knowledge and heart knowledge. Beaver, most people back then didn't believe in global warming, look at what has happened over 10 years. People are starting to own what's happening. This is why AQE now has the potential to do well over 25 mil a year. It's because people are beginning to actually change the way they live. Not so 10 years ago.
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Look, here it is, no matter how much you want the company to succeed, no matter how much you want their products to help the environment, investing in this company is a gamble (as most penny stocks are).
Maybe something good will happen and some lucky investors will get rich. Looking through some of the news articles I see that a few municipalities are interested in their wastewater systems, and if they can increase sales (or get any sales) MAYBE it'll turn around.
If you feel (and you shouldn't rely on 'feelings' in the stock game) maybe you should drop some money on them. They're trading at .46 last I looked, and very lightly, so you should be able to buy plenty. Who knows? Maybe the stock gods will smile on you, because the financials sure aren't.
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Save me the bullshit, ok? Some of what you say...ok, good. But the no matter how much I want the company to succeed shate. |
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the_beaver

Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2006 6:40 am Post subject: |
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I should have known you would take a swipe.
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Nope. Plenty of businesses go belly up after 10 years, or 20 years, or whenever.
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Beaver, you must realize that the longer a business is operating, the better it's chances of staying around. Sure business's go bankrupt after 10 or 20 years, but compare that with new start ups.
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| And maybe he can do something with this, but what you're missing is that he could be a great CEO and it might not make a lick of difference if whoever is supporting the company is sick of the over 16,000,000 dollars they've been in the hole for the last couple of years. |
Beaver, I worked in the engineering field for 7 years, before entering theology. One part of my job was to bring new technologies to the companies. It's called cost savings. Will the new technology be paid off in 2/3/4/5 years. Do you understand this idea?
This is also the case of AQE. I am a little shaky on this part, but I believe the 16,000,000 million owed is shareholder equity. How can that be a negative when it's in the investors hands?
On the front sheet, why does it look like it's up 11,000,000?
My dad is in Cuba, so when he gets back I will be asking him this stuff.
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No. 10 years ago environmental awareness was about the same as today. I remember having the *beep* *beep* rammed down my throat in high school 20 years go. There's little difference in awareness. And, the part that you aren't getting, it makes no difference if the financials cause the company to go bankrupt before appreciable revenue comes in. |
There's a difference between head knowledge and heart knowledge. Beaver, most people back then didn't believe in global warming, look at what has happened over 10 years. People are starting to own what's happening. This is why AQE now has the potential to do well over 25 mil a year. It's because people are beginning to actually change the way they live. Not so 10 years ago.
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Look, here it is, no matter how much you want the company to succeed, no matter how much you want their products to help the environment, investing in this company is a gamble (as most penny stocks are).
Maybe something good will happen and some lucky investors will get rich. Looking through some of the news articles I see that a few municipalities are interested in their wastewater systems, and if they can increase sales (or get any sales) MAYBE it'll turn around.
If you feel (and you shouldn't rely on 'feelings' in the stock game) maybe you should drop some money on them. They're trading at .46 last I looked, and very lightly, so you should be able to buy plenty. Who knows? Maybe the stock gods will smile on you, because the financials sure aren't.
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Save me the *beep*, ok? Some of what you say...ok, good. But the no matter how much I want the company to succeed shate. |
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Of course I took a swipe. You pleaded ignorance, asked for an opinion, refuted the opinion (from your point of professed ignorance), and keep posting to keep this thread high on the list. When an opinion is asked for it doesn't matter if its taken or not, but it is annoying to offer something with a helpful attitude and instead be drawn into an argument.
Yes, I understand cost savings. It's not relevant here because we are focusing on the present debt, not reducing the projected costs. This new technology could be paid off in 2, 3, 4, 5 years if the company stays solvent.
Shareholder equity? Wouldn't there have to be retained earnings? This company doesn't have any earnings to retain.
Timeline for consciousness of global warning bullshit aside, a potential market means nothing if it isn't tapped and so far this company hasn't done much tapping.
If you want to invest then invest, but don't ask for advice, have me look at the balance sheets and statements, and then try to convince me that despite the company's poor balance sheets and track record it's a sure thing.
Maybe you're right and the time is right for these environmental companies, but the time was right for internet companies a while back and only a handful of them survived to make the stockholders rich. |
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Don Gately

Joined: 20 Mar 2006 Location: In a basement taking a severe beating
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Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2006 3:28 pm Post subject: |
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I thought people had to pay for advertising on this site. |
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fiveeagles

Joined: 19 May 2005 Location: Vancouver
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Posted: Sun Mar 26, 2006 7:10 am Post subject: |
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Of course I took a swipe. You pleaded ignorance, asked for an opinion, refuted the opinion (from your point of professed ignorance), and keep posting to keep this thread high on the list. When an opinion is asked for it doesn't matter if its taken or not, but it is annoying to offer something with a helpful attitude and instead be drawn into an argument.
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With all due respect...you are an english teacher right? You haven't hit the columns of fortune 500 yet, right? Yeah, I want to keep this thread high, with your constant criticisms. Yeah, that's great advertising.
Regardless, Beaver...Gandalf once said "For even the very wise cannot see all ends". It does seem you have quite a bit of intellect on financials, but there is a lot happening behind the scenes that you are not aware of. Disagreement does not necessarily mean that I don't agree with what you are saying, but it means I am looking for deeper truth. Because some of what you are saying is not lining up with some of the previous conversations I have had with other people..
Aight? |
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Don Gately

Joined: 20 Mar 2006 Location: In a basement taking a severe beating
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Posted: Sun Mar 26, 2006 2:56 pm Post subject: |
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| the_beaver wrote: |
Of course I took a swipe. You pleaded ignorance, asked for an opinion, refuted the opinion (from your point of professed ignorance), and keep posting to keep this thread high on the list. When an opinion is asked for it doesn't matter if its taken or not, but it is annoying to offer something with a helpful attitude and instead be drawn into an argument.
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With all due respect...you are an english teacher right? You haven't hit the columns of fortune 500 yet, right? Yeah, I want to keep this thread high, with your constant criticisms. Yeah, that's great advertising.
Regardless, Beaver...Gandalf once said "For even the very wise cannot see all ends". It does seem you have quite a bit of intellect on financials, but there is a lot happening behind the scenes that you are not aware of. Disagreement does not necessarily mean that I don't agree with what you are saying, but it means I am looking for deeper truth. Because some of what you are saying is not lining up with some of the previous conversations I have had with other people..
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So Beaver is wrong because there are facts that you are privy to that he is not? Is that really a fair way to debate?
And Beaver ran a restaurant here, in Korea, for several years. That requires a lot of expertise in finance and business management. |
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laogaiguk

Joined: 06 Dec 2005 Location: somewhere in Korea
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Posted: Sun Mar 26, 2006 4:23 pm Post subject: |
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| fiveeagles wrote: |
I should have known you would take a swipe.
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Nope. Plenty of businesses go belly up after 10 years, or 20 years, or whenever.
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Beaver, you must realize that the longer a business is operating, the better it's chances of staying around. Sure business's go bankrupt after 10 or 20 years, but compare that with new start ups.
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Actually, I just read a study on how many companies are going out of business because their inept children were taking them over as the parents retire. I'll try to find it again. |
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fiveeagles

Joined: 19 May 2005 Location: Vancouver
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Posted: Sun Mar 26, 2006 6:00 pm Post subject: |
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| So Beaver is wrong because there are facts that you are privy to that he is not? Is that really a fair way to debate? |
I never said he was wrong. He has made a strong argument to why the company won't succeed. Maybe, more so than the arguments I have heard to why it will.
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| And Beaver ran a restaurant here, in Korea, for several years. That requires a lot of expertise in finance and business management. |
There is no doubt Beaver is intelligent and I have never said he isn't. However, to shut down a discussion with personal insult, because I feel like there are other avenues to discuss isn't very kind. |
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fiveeagles

Joined: 19 May 2005 Location: Vancouver
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Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2006 12:57 am Post subject: |
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| It's been a long grind, but things are moving ahead. Please find below a link to yesterday's news broadcast from Dallas Tx. The video story is called "TX Natural Gas Companies Conserving Water". This broadcast pertains to Fountain Quail (Aqua Pure's Texas Service company) and Devon Energy. Devon is the largest producer in this field. The site pictured is the Blakely site near Haslet Tx where Aqua Pure has three units operating. We also have two units operating at the "Thompson" site near Glennview Tx. and two more units scheduled for start up this month. Each unit processes approx.74,000 gal.per day. |
http://cbs11tv.com/video/[email protected]
How do you like those apples? |
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the_beaver

Joined: 15 Jan 2003
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Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2006 2:18 am Post subject: |
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| It's been a long grind, but things are moving ahead. Please find below a link to yesterday's news broadcast from Dallas Tx. The video story is called "TX Natural Gas Companies Conserving Water". This broadcast pertains to Fountain Quail (Aqua Pure's Texas Service company) and Devon Energy. Devon is the largest producer in this field. The site pictured is the Blakely site near Haslet Tx where Aqua Pure has three units operating. We also have two units operating at the "Thompson" site near Glennview Tx. and two more units scheduled for start up this month. Each unit processes approx.74,000 gal.per day. |
http://cbs11tv.com/video/[email protected]
How do you like those apples? |
They must be doing something right. I mean, from a high of over 4 dollars in 1999 to a scorching 58 cents today speaks of solid something or other. |
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fiveeagles

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Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2006 6:43 am Post subject: |
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| That's right....keep talking. |
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fiveeagles

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Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 12:19 am Post subject: |
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June 5, 2007
Aqua Pure Ventures Inc. announced today that its Texas operating subsidiary Fountain Quail Water Management LLP has entered into a three year contract with Devon Energy Corp of Oklahoma City, Oklahoma to provide nine Nomad evaporator units for Devon's exclusive use. These units will produce distilled water from fracture flowback and early stage produced water from Barnett Shale natural gas wells in north Texas.
"Fountain Quail is extremely pleased to continue providing assistance to Devon's natural resource management program in the areas of recycling and conservation of water," said Mr. Delzon Elenburg, president of Fountain Quail.
To date, Fountain Quail has reclaimed over 2.26 million barrels of distilled water from 2.77 million barrels of fracture flow back and produced water for Devon.
Aqua-Pure is a leading provider of industrial and municipal wastewater services and technology solutions that ensure environmental sustainability through utilization of patented and proprietary technologies. The Corporation's common shares are listed on the TSX Venture Exchange under the trading symbol "AQE".
For more information, please contact: [email protected] or:
Jacob T. Halldorson
Chief Executive
Tel: (403) 301 4123
Harold Lauman
Officer President
Tel: (403) 301 4123. |
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cbclark4

Joined: 20 Aug 2006 Location: Masan
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Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 2:32 am Post subject: |
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Those are the same folks responsible for them chemtrails.
Just more DHMO to spread around. |
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fiveeagles

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