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What IS a Christian, anyway?
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khyber



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2006 11:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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For example, those that have never been introduced to Christ wold not be excluded from heaven if they lived - or sincerely tried to live - a Christ-like life. Are they not, in a technical sense, Christian?
I would say the opposite..in a technical sense, they may NOT be Christian.

After all, a BIG chunk of Christ's "instruction" (AND EXAMPLE) was his faith in God, and his conviction in what he had to do for humanity.

Don't confuse Christ-like with simply "being a good person". There is more to being Christ-like than not stealing, not drinkin' and not boinkin' everything that moves.
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Bee Positive



Joined: 27 Oct 2005

PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 6:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Satori wrote:
It's the people who call themselves christian that are the furthest away from the teachings of Christ...



Satori:

Wow, a complex sentence!

Seriously, let's analyze this thing.

You've only managed to write just this one sentence. Normally, that wouldn't get you a passing grade on any essay test. However, you do, to your credit, manage to produce first a simple-sentence clause, "It [SUB] is [VERB]" followed by a subject-pattern adjective clause "who [RELATIVE PRONOUN/SUBJECT] call [VERB]," and so, voila!, hey presto! Welcome to the big time, Satori! You can write a complex sentence!

And wow! It gets even better! On second analysis, I find that "that are the furthest away" seems to constitute a SECOND subordinate clause. You rule, Satori! You can spin out the subordinate clauses till the cows come home! (Heh, heh, cliche.)

You've obviously graduated from the first grade.

But . . .

I know that this isn't kind of me, but will you please attempt at least a middle-school level of mental sophistication when posting here? I mean come on, the flat-footed one-liners, which most of us here, I suspect, could have managed twenty years ago, are simply nothing worth taking too seriously.

I'm pained to have to read your all-too-obvious one-liners again and again and again.

Form: "It's the people who call themselves X-ian who are the furthest away from the teachings of X."

Mad-lib it:

"It's the people who call themselves BUDDHIST who are the furthest away from the teachings of BUDDHA."

"It's the people who call themselves MARXIST who are the furthest away from the teachings of MARX."

Etc. ad nauseam.

Though true, perhaps, in some cases.

DO YOU SUPPORT YOUR THESIS STATEMENT? IS YOUR TOPIC SENTENCE UNDERGIRDED WITH REASONS, EXAMPLES, DEMONSTRATIONS?

Would you pass the surprisingly rigorous essay-writing exam which my MIDDLE SCHOOL STUDENTS take each term? And with English as their second language?

You've got inklings of the truth, and no one's denying that. But you seem to think that a heh-heh-look-at-me-I'm-so-smart one-liner somehow devastates the oppostion, when in fact we're so far ahead of you intellectually that we're laughing, or rather just plain ignoring you and moving on to the next response.

WHERE DID YOU STUDY BEYOND HIGH SCHOOL, WHAT WAS YOUR MAJOR, AND WHAT DEGREE(S) DID YOU TAKE?

Fess up. Bring it on. I can't be the only one who's curious.


BEE+

P.S.: Seriously, can't you see that you're overgeneralizing a tad bit in your anti-Christianism?
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EFLtrainer



Joined: 04 May 2005

PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2006 9:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

khyber wrote:
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For example, those that have never been introduced to Christ wold not be excluded from heaven if they lived - or sincerely tried to live - a Christ-like life. Are they not, in a technical sense, Christian?
I would say the opposite..in a technical sense, they may NOT be Christian.

After all, a BIG chunk of Christ's "instruction" (AND EXAMPLE) was his faith in God, and his conviction in what he had to do for humanity.

Don't confuse Christ-like with simply "being a good person". There is more to being Christ-like than not stealing, not drinkin' and not boinkin' everything that moves.


Christ-like here means to live in a certain way, that is, with a certain philosophy of life regardless of your exposure to religion. Think youa re being too narrow in your use of the term. There is no reason it must have a religious meaning.
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