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[ontheway]

Hello fiveeagles,

While such events such as hurricanes are bound to bring about some temporary chaos, I think the chaos in New Orleans was made much worse by the government and that if there were little or no government there would have been little or no chaos beyond the storm itself.

In New Orleans we saw most people evacuate independently, in their own cars with their own families, friends and loved ones. However, many waited for "mommy" government to help them. If they knew there was no government agency coming to help them, they might have gotten themselves out.

All of those government owned buses just sat there. The buses were damaged or destroyed and no people were hauled out. With no government, a private bus company would have had its drivers drive every one of those buses out with a paid load of evacuees on board.

The government directed people into evacuation centers where it failed to serve them. It couldn't handle the large numbers and was not preprared.
Meanwhile, some private citizens who could have helped, didn't, assuming or expecting that the government would do it. Many other private citizens who attempted to help were turned back by the government and prevented from helping.

Finally, New Orleans was and remains a disaster waiting to happen because the government has subsidized the construction and insurance of a large city in a bowl that is below sea level where there should be no insurance available for those foolish enough to risk their own money to build there. Without our fascist-socialist monster state, New Orleans would be a small, party town, easy to evacuate and rebuild by its private owners and the number of dead would have been at or close to zero.

And before anyone goes throwing in any crap about the poor and unemployed etc. it is important that poverty and unemployment are creations of big government. Every government program destroys more jobs by taking money out of private hands than it creates by spending the money it has taken. This is true whether the government gets the money through taxation, borrowing or inflation (which is a tax imposed by the government expanding the money supply). Thus, in a free America, there would have been few poor (if any) to be left behind in New Orleans.

[Summer Wine]

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So the best example you can come up with is the system accidentally considering you a criminal? If this happens, your best would be to turn yourself in, chip or no chip

No that wasn't my best example, it was simply an example. Historically, meaning in the last 50 years or so, people in a society (mine as well as others that most teachers come from) have been moving from a issue of self control in their own lives, whereby they knew what was best for a society and moderated their own behaviour in accordance with it.

To having control over their actions determined by their Government or controlling organisations. Thus a move from self control to societal control. A move from drinking in public but not becoming excessively drunk to not being allowed to drink at all and if being seen to carry an open container, being required to pour it out. (just one example)

This new technology allows societal control to be increased over peoples lives exponentially, removing out of their hands certain freedoms. Because the technology improves and simplifys the transition from self control to societal control, it is likely to be adopted in greater quantities than time for reflection provides.

Thus the potential for abuse of this technology is high in a centralised political and business system. This new technology is one that has the potential to work especially well with current technology and even improve its uses. Though in todays point and click world, being able to access, monitor and direct a persons actions and movements through use of this technology and other current and future technology will easily meld into peoples use of it. Making it a major part of daily life and ineveitably eroding what little right we have to a society determined by self control vs societal control.

[fiveeagles]

First, I want to say I really like your writing style. I also agree with a lot of what you say.

[igotthisguitar]

Get em while they're young

Biometrics, ID cards, tagging, DNA kits
being pushed on kids

Steve Watson - Prisonplanet
February 21 2006

A Reader has alerted us to the following website and stalls all around the country that are actively pushing biometrics, ID cards and "do it yourself" DNA kits on children.

The reader comments:

I was shopping for groceries at my Local Albertsons when I saw the all
too familiar Child Fingerprinting tables.

They are part of a Child ID program called Child Protection Education
of America.

The fingerprint card produced in the "ID ME NOW" program not only contains the fingerprint scans and a digital photograph of a child, but it also supplies instructions on how to perform a DNA collection.

While there is considerable resistance to National ID cards with
Biometrics, such as retina scan, DNA, and fingerprints, they have no problem pushing this on kids "TO KEEP THEM SAFE"

The rational behind the program according to KidsafeID is that "A child is reported missing every 40 seconds in the United States alone."

Right, so carrying a biometric ID card will prevent that?

The site goes on to say ...

"In this situation, the first thing needed is an accurate and immediate description of your child. Do not try to rely on your memory at this point - your mind will be so frantically focused on finding your child that you may cause more confusion than clarity. Also, do not think that a child ID kept at home ( like a video, a home fact file, or a snapshot ) will help in this situation."

So basically you will be so out of your mind with worry that you will forget what your own child looks like - and a normal picture of the child WILL DO NO GOOD.

What utter claptrap.



Whether or not you believe this company is controlled by someone else higher up or is simply cashing in on the current march towards the biometric surveillance police state, it is acclimatizing our children and making them think that having your retina scanned and your DNA logged is normal and necessary to keep you safe.

The company even suggests tagging children like they are dogs.

"It's is also important for children to have a resourse with your contact information on them. If they are injured or lost, the identifying information can help law enforcement or concerned citizens contact you. ID tags, complete with parent name and phone numbers, can be tied into shoes, backpacks, wallets, fanny packs or purses."

WOOF WOOF !!!

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/february2006/210206pushed_on_kids.htm