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Xerxes
Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Location: Down a certain (rabbit) hole, apparently
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I read that if you spill a cup of water into the ocean and wait long enough to take another cup full out of the ocean, some of the water molecules of the original cup of water would be in that second cup.
I want my ashes ground to a fine powder and tossed into the sea. I want to be vast and be in many places, visit those ports of call I missed in life. |
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SeoulFinn
Joined: 27 Feb 2006
Location: 1h from Seoul
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| Posted: Sat Mar 25, 2006 5:54 am Post subject: |
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| Xerxes wrote: |
| I want my ashes ground to a fine powder and tossed into the sea. I want to be vast and be in many places, visit those ports of call I missed in life. |
Sir, you are a genius! That's almost poetic.
*giving an standing ovation*
As for my own remains. Umm... chop it up and grind it to pulp before putting "minced me(at)" in couple hundred cans of cat food. *shrugs* Must be more useful than taking space in a cemetary, right? |
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OiGirl
Joined: 23 Jan 2003
Location: Hoke-y-gun
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| Posted: Sat Mar 25, 2006 3:10 pm Post subject: |
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| Um, buried of course! How are all of you crematees going to roll underground to the Promised Land when the Messiah comes? |
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Xerxes
Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Location: Down a certain (rabbit) hole, apparently
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| Posted: Sat Mar 25, 2006 6:19 pm Post subject: |
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| OiGirl wrote: |
| Um, buried of course! How are all of you crematees going to roll underground to the Promised Land when the Messiah comes? |
 That, miss, is a BIG pickle!  |
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Mills
Joined: 07 Jan 2006
Location: Incheon
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| Posted: Sat Mar 25, 2006 6:59 pm Post subject: |
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| OiGirl wrote: |
| Um, buried of course! How are all of you crematees going to roll underground to the Promised Land when the Messiah comes? |
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SPINOZA
Joined: 10 Jun 2005
Location: $eoul
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| Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 5:04 am Post subject: Re: Burial or cremation? |
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Burial or cremation?
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Ideally, neither. My preference would be to be eaten by my loved ones. Perhaps a meat soup with ginger, onions, garlic and lentils. I'm serious. I would want to eat my loved ones when they pass away. I want to be consumed by my nearest and dearest - mother (if she's still alive), kids (if I have them), wife (if I have one), blah blah...a ceremony, a feast. It irritates me how it's not possible. |
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Smee
Joined: 24 Dec 2004
Location: Jeollanam-do
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| Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 5:08 am Post subject: |
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You ever see these Lifegems? http://www.lifegem.com/
Minus the poetry that's taken from an 8th grader's spiral notebook, they ain't half-bad.
But my vote is for cremation. It's arrogant to take up a plot of land after death. Plus I'm a little creaped-out by corpses, so I have a fear of being exhumed. ��¥. |
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red dog
Joined: 31 Oct 2004
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| Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 5:12 am Post subject: |
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| I haven't decided yet. Does anyone have any links about the pros and cons of each (in terms of how they affect the surrounding environment)? |
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Smee
Joined: 24 Dec 2004
Location: Jeollanam-do
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| Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 5:26 am Post subject: |
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I'd like to find/make a side-by-side comparison, too.
Cremation
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Others prefer cremation for environmental reasons. Some are concerned that during bodily decomposition body fluids and embalming chemicals could contaminate the Earth. Some locations have found that long-buried bodies are now causing groundwater contamination. Arsenic, used as an embalming chemical in the 19th and early 20th centuries, has been known to cause serious pollution later on.
Another environmental concern is that traditional burial takes up a great deal of space. In a traditional burial the body is buried in a casket made from a variety of materials. In America the casket is often placed inside a concrete vault or liner before burial in the ground. While individually this may not take much room, combined with other burials it can over time cause serious space concerns. Many cemeteries, particularly in Europe and Japan as well as those in larger cities, are starting to run out of space. In Tokyo, for example, it is almost impossible to find a traditional funeral plot.
One item of concern has been that the exhaust systems of cremation ovens may contribute to air pollution. In response crematorium manufacturers have built computerized control systems that regulate the exhaust systems to keep crematoriums from contributing to air pollution. Additionally some crematoria remove all plastic handles and fittings from a coffin before cremation and these are disposed of separately for the same reason.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cremation
Burial
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Natural burial
A growing trend in modern burial is the concept of natural burial. Popularised in the United Kingdom in the late 1990's natural burial is being adopted in the United States as a method for protecting and restoring the natural environment.
With a natural burial, the body is returned to nature in a biodegradable coffin or shroud. Native vegetation (often a memorial tree) is planted over or near the grave in place of a conventional cemetery monument. The resulting green space establishes a living memorial and forms a protected wildlife preserve.
Natural burial grounds are also known as a woodland cemetery, an eco-cemetery, a memorial nature preserve, or a green burial ground.
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Dead Bodies and Health Risks
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While, of course, research and evidence must override any commonsensical arguments, there is no logical reason for non-diseased corpses to generate and spread disease: micro-organisms do not come into being by spontaneous generation, any more than flies are generated spontaneously by rotting rubbish, rather than hatching eggs. Disease micro-organisms are not the same as those causing decay.
Contamination of water supplies, whether by unburied bodies, burial sites or temporary storage sites, should clearly be avoided, but the risks from undiseased bodies are of gastroenteritis (presumably from normal intestinal contents) rather than epidemics and deadly diseases.
From Infectious Disease Risks From Dead Bodies Following Natural Disasters: "There is little evidence of microbiological contamination of groundwater from burial ... Where dead bodies have contaminated water supplies, gastroenteritis has been the most notable problem, although communities will rarely use a water supply where they know it to be contaminated by dead bodies."
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jinju
Joined: 22 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 5:28 am Post subject: |
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| I want to be embalmed and put on display at that big plaza in front of City Hall where millions of Koreans will come to pay respect each year, having to line up in long lines for a glimpse of my body. |
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Smee
Joined: 24 Dec 2004
Location: Jeollanam-do
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| Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 5:31 am Post subject: |
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| Did your team win the Super Bowl? |
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jinju
Joined: 22 Jan 2006
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| Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 5:33 am Post subject: |
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| Did your team win the Super Bowl? |
heheh you will never know. |
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mole
Joined: 06 Feb 2003
Location: Act III
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| Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 9:13 am Post subject: |
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From what I understand, next into the family plot will be stacked on someone else!
I don't want to take up space there. A nice Gothic marker will do.
I'm not sure I'm leaving anything recyclable behind.
But some group of young med students will have an interesting cadaver. |
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red dog
Joined: 31 Oct 2004
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Thanks Smee,
The eco-burial thing sounds appealing, if it really is the most eco-friendly choice. I still have a few doubts, though, and will have to give it a lot more thought ... |
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inspector gadget
Joined: 11 Apr 2003
Location: jeollanam-do in the boonies
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| Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 6:17 pm Post subject: |
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Burn baby burn,
Ashes to be spread at Laughing Bird Lake, a favourtie fishing hotspot in Northern Ontario were myslef and about 11 or 12 others guys have gone every May long weekend. Only missed 2 years in the past 14.
No need to take up space on land |
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