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zinc
Joined: 18 Apr 2006
Location: Now in Japan. But Korea, I'll soon be back!
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That is great!
We've got Teachers speaking, we've got Recruiters speaking, we have Schools speaking... all in harmony, peacefully, without anger... simply exchanging ideas.
I really hope these kind of "open" and "positive" exchanges will happen more and more on this forum!
That's what a forum should be all about!! Way to go!! |
That is *beep*!!!!
In the spirit of international understanding, allow me to offer some advice:
Use fewer exclamation points in your posts, and it will take people longer than 3 seconds to realize you are a Korean.
But still not more than 5.
I mean, jesus tapdancing christ. |
Hahaha! Thanks (LOL)
I'm French Canadian actually! 
I like "!" marks... it reflects well my personality. |
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flotsam
Joined: 28 Mar 2006
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| Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 12:54 am Post subject: |
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Hahaha! Thanks (LOL)
I'm French Canadian actually!
I like "!" marks... it reflects well my personality. |
Yes...the Quebecois are world-renowned for their giddy exuberance and joie de vivre.
OK hotshot, since you are online(response time to last post : 2 minutes) and French-Canadian(yet somehow got hired with English writing skills that suggest what is sure to be a barely perceptible accent) let's have you whip up a response to the following question en Francais, in say...10 minutes or less:
What did you think of the depiction of the Quebecois in South Park episode 715, Christmas in Canada? Of course, if you never saw the episode, just tell us that you never saw it, and refer us to your favorite TV program: one you can recommend to us all.
The time is now 17:46 and the clock is running... |
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zinc
Joined: 18 Apr 2006
Location: Now in Japan. But Korea, I'll soon be back!
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| Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 1:03 am Post subject: |
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Yes...the Quebecois are world-renowned for their giddy exuberance and joie de vivre.
OK hotshot, since you are online(response time to last post : 2 minutes) and French-Canadian(yet somehow got hired with English writing skills that suggest what is sure to be a barely perceptible accent) let's have you whip up a response to the following question en Francais, in say...10 minutes or less:
What did you think of the depiction of the Quebecois in South Park episode 715, Christmas in Canada? Of course, if you never saw the episode, just tell us that you never saw it, and refer us to your favorite TV program: one you can recommend to us all.
The time is now 17:46 and the clock is running... |
We're really getting off-topic (not really job-related), but, hey, pourquoi pas! That's kind of fun anyway! ... and I hope you can understand French...
Answer to your question:
Premierement, je ne regarde pas "South Park", desole...
J'habite en Asie depuis l'an 2000, donc je ne regarde pas tellement la televison. Je prefere lire, ou bien aller voir des films. Donc, a la place de recommender une emission televisee, je vais recommender un film que j'ai bien aime. As-tu vu le film "The Swimming Pool"? Tres interessant; surtout la fin! Superbe!
...satisfied...? Ha He!
Ok, let's get back on topic now.
Well, but I think there's nothing much to say anyway...  |
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Angelus
Joined: 10 Feb 2006
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| Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 1:21 am Post subject: |
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| If you want to learn more about me, I'll be at the Asian EFL Journal International Conference in Busan this Saturday. They have asked me to come and set up a table and talk to teachers there because of my good reputation. |
Bigbuds, if this isn't promoting yourself and your company, I don't know what is. It's one thing to come one here, give advice, and help teachers out, but to come on here and mention your company and imply how Ghandi-esque you are is another. |
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flotsam
Joined: 28 Mar 2006
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| Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 1:23 am Post subject: |
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Yeah, I understand...
9 minutes too...not bad.
I will wait for someone who has a better feel for French to make a determination on how natural that was. Then I will make my final analysis.
For now, you may carry on. Run along, play. |
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zinc
Joined: 18 Apr 2006
Location: Now in Japan. But Korea, I'll soon be back!
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| Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 1:31 am Post subject: |
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| If you want to learn more about me, I'll be at the Asian EFL Journal International Conference in Busan this Saturday. They have asked me to come and set up a table and talk to teachers there because of my good reputation. |
Bigbuds, if this isn't promoting yourself and your company, I don't know what is. It's one thing to come one here, give advice, and help teachers out, but to come on here and mention your company and imply how Ghandi-esque you are is another. |
I would have to agree with Angelus on that...
Bigbuds kind of scored a point with his first reply (+1), it really made him and his business look good, and really didn't have to add anything; he had made his point. |
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zinc
Joined: 18 Apr 2006
Location: Now in Japan. But Korea, I'll soon be back!
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| Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 1:43 am Post subject: |
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Yeah, I understand...
9 minutes too...not bad.
I will wait for someone who has a better feel for French to make a determination on how natural that was. Then I will make my final analysis.
For now, you may carry on. Run along, play. |
Ok Doc! Have fun doing your analysis! ... but I suggest you post it in the "Off-Topic Forum" though...
Cheers |
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Angelus
Joined: 10 Feb 2006
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| Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 1:47 am Post subject: |
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I've made no secret of the fact that I own Duff Recruiting, and no I'm not posing as a teacher, I am a teacher. Actually, I will be finishing teaching for good as of this week....hopefully. My wife and I also own a hagwon. I'm also the only recruiter in Korea that EFL-LAW will recommend because I make a point of doing everything above board and have helped teachers fight illegal firings (not teachers I've recruited. So far no problem with teachers I've recruited).
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More like -100 for even mentioning his company name.
Another -100 for this statement "I am the only recruiter in Korea that EFL-LAW will recommend...." >>Implication: All other recruiting companies don't do the above mentioned or are crooked.
It's great you do those things that you claim you do. All recruiters should, and I'm sure a significant number of them do. But by mentioning your company and making statements like these, you are self absorbed and lack all business ethics. |
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BigBuds
Joined: 15 Sep 2005
Location: Changwon
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| Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 2:04 am Post subject: |
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The second post was more because the Asian EFL Journal had asked me to help get the word out about the conference and this was a good oportunity to do it,and to also be a little sarcastic about plugging my company which I have never done before on here. I guess it was a little too subtle. it wasn't a plug just me being a little bit of a smart a$$.
But in my first post I had to mention my comapny name to give an answer to your accusation Angelus. |
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BigBuds
Joined: 15 Sep 2005
Location: Changwon
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| Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 2:04 am Post subject: |
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The second post was more because the Asian EFL Journal had asked me to help get the word out about the conference and this was a good oportunity to do it,and to also be a little sarcastic about plugging my company which I have never done before on here. I guess it was a little too subtle. it wasn't a plug just me being a little bit of a smart a$$.
But in my first post I had to mention my comapny name to give an answer to you accusation Angelus. |
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indytrucks
Joined: 09 Apr 2003
Location: The Shelf
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| Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 3:09 am Post subject: |
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10:00 – 10:50
Professor Rod Ellis
University of Auckland
"Principles of Task Based Teaching."
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Man, I would love to get a chance to talk to this guy.
How can I find out about conferences and such? Busan this weekend is a bit short notice. |
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Hanson
Joined: 20 Oct 2004
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| Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 3:57 am Post subject: |
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Yes...the Quebecois are world-renowned for their giddy exuberance and joie de vivre.
OK hotshot, since you are online(response time to last post : 2 minutes) and French-Canadian(yet somehow got hired with English writing skills that suggest what is sure to be a barely perceptible accent) let's have you whip up a response to the following question en Francais, in say...10 minutes or less:
What did you think of the depiction of the Quebecois in South Park episode 715, Christmas in Canada? Of course, if you never saw the episode, just tell us that you never saw it, and refer us to your favorite TV program: one you can recommend to us all.
The time is now 17:46 and the clock is running... |
We're really getting off-topic (not really job-related), but, hey, pourquoi pas! That's kind of fun anyway! ... and I hope you can understand French...
Answer to your question:
Premierement, je ne regarde pas "South Park", desole...
J'habite en Asie depuis l'an 2000, donc je ne regarde pas tellement la televison. Je prefere lire, ou bien aller voir des films. Donc, a la place de recommender une emission televisee, je vais recommender un film que j'ai bien aime. As-tu vu le film "The Swimming Pool"? Tres interessant; surtout la fin! Superbe!
...satisfied...? Ha He!
Ok, let's get back on topic now.
Well, but I think there's nothing much to say anyway... |
Well, my also being from Quebec and being perfectly bilingual, I can vouch for zinc in that his French is flawless, no doubt about that.
flotsam, why the hate on French Canadians (I'm referring to the 'barely perceptible accent' part)? You can challenge zinc on the basis of his post - hell, I certainly do - but his coming from Quebec doesn't necessarily mean he has an accent. I don't.
Et pour ce que tu as dit dans ton OP, zinc, c'est pas tout le monde qui sait comment ca fonctionne en Coree avant de s'y mettre pieds. Moi aussi j'ai utilise un recruteur, et chanceux comme j'ai ete, tout s'est bien passe. J'etais sous la meconception qu'un recruteur etait un professionel, pas n'importe qui, ce qui evidemment est faux. Faudrait peut-etre essayer de comprendre pourquoi les gens qui se sont fait avoir reagissent comme ils le font...
C'est un peu facile de faire des commentaires comme les tiens avec le savoir que tu possesses maintenant, n'est-ce pas? |
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flotsam
Joined: 28 Mar 2006
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Nonono...
Never intended to suggest that all those from Quebec have accents that would prevent them from finding easy employment here, but some do.
You may be prefectly bilingual, but zinc's English ain't all there--thus I smelled a rat. Maybe I was wrong, I haven't decided yet(haven't given it any thought since this afternoon) but if zinc is who he says he is, then the grammar, spelling and, especially, the natural flow of his English suggests he is nowhere near as fluent as you.
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| C'est un peu facile de faire des commentaires comme les tiens avec le savoir que tu possesses maintenant, n'est-ce pas? |
And the way he expresses them. Yikes.
Many apologies for the stray ball, I neglected to call fore loud enough. |
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zinc
Joined: 18 Apr 2006
Location: Now in Japan. But Korea, I'll soon be back!
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| Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 4:31 am Post subject: |
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Et pour ce que tu as dit dans ton OP, zinc, c'est pas tout le monde qui sait comment ca fonctionne en Coree avant de s'y mettre pieds. Moi aussi j'ai utilise un recruteur, et chanceux comme j'ai ete, tout s'est bien passe. J'etais sous la meconception qu'un recruteur etait un professionel, pas n'importe qui, ce qui evidemment est faux. Faudrait peut-etre essayer de comprendre pourquoi les gens qui se sont fait avoir reagissent comme ils le font...
C'est un peu facile de faire des commentaires comme les tiens avec le savoir que tu possesses maintenant, n'est-ce pas? |
>FLOTSAM
Yes indeed, my English is not perfect, and I do have a French accent... but I can speak/write various other languages too. I don't think that's the point here though... we may discuss this topic and my qualifications to teach English elsewhere if you don't mind 
I'm open to any suggestions, comments, or concerns you may have! Hehe! But... actually... why should you care...!? I thought so... you don't care right? Good then!
>HANSON
English translation will follow... later... someday...
Salut Hanson,
Je comprends completement ce que tu veux dire... quand on ne sais pas, on ne sais pas! Et c'est vraiment difficile de se proteger et de detecter toute la magouille qu'il peu y avoir dans cette industrie...
Ce que j'essaye de faire vraiment, etant donne que le probleme a ete cerne et discute a plusieurs reprises sur ce forum, et que les frustrations ont etees clairement exprimees (ce qui est le premier niveau), est d'essayer d'aller au prochain niveau... c'est a dire au niveau des solutions, et s'il n'y a pas vraiment de solutions, au moins d'en arriver au niveau de comprehension du probleme. Et le fait d'essayer d'en discuter a fond sur ce forum pourra peu etre aider a soulager les peines, ou peu etre au moins prevenir et avertir tous ces nouveaux profs qui sont en train de graduer de l'universite en ce moment et qui s'en viennent bientot en Coree... Je ne pense pas que nous voulons les decourager par nos plaintes... parceque la Coree est quand meme une experience extraordinaire! Le but, a mon avis, est vraiment de donner le plus d'outils possibles a ces futur profs, de leur faire comprendre qu'ils sont en charge, eux, et non les recruteurs, et qu'en fait il y a vraiment moyen de naviguer a travers tout ce brouhaha... Et qui d'autre que nous pour leur expliquer tout ca! Nous qui sommes deja passe a travers tout ca; nous qui baignons deja dans ce bouillons; nous qui y goutons deja!
Allez, au plaisir! Passes une bonne soiree!
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Hanson
Joined: 20 Oct 2004
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| Posted: Thu Apr 27, 2006 4:43 am Post subject: |
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To flotsam, my apologies; I must have read something into your post that wasn't there.  Come to think of it, there WERE a few French-sounding sentences in there...
To zinc, your response to me (in French) was much more amiable than your OP, and indeed than the title of this thread. I bow out (not so) gracefully... |
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