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uberscheisse · Joined: 02 Dec 2003 Location: japan is better than korea.

i don't see a big distinction between the two, jon.

both are driven by a desire to take rock and roll away from the mainstream. a lot of people chose to associate the word "hardcore" with the tired-before it became-avante-garde template of 3-chord speed riffs dictated by the early 1980s.

crass is hardcore.
dead kennedys is hardcore.
so is american nightmare, discharge, black flag, terror, circle jerks, millions of dead cops, nomeansno, the crucifucks, the f.u.'s, the big boys, SNFU, corrosion of conformity (before they became a southern rock band)...

a band is hardcore because it takes a militant stance against the b.s. business of rock and roll. it also has to kinda be rooted in punk rock and make people want to fight each other. i realize these are very loose terms, but when you see it, you know.

so yes, couch is hardcore. unless of course they're entertaining the idea of a big label record deal.

RACETRAITOR · Joined: 24 Oct 2005 Location: Seoul, South Korea

Lumping all bands like that into hardcore doesn't really do them all a great service. You might just as easily call them all garage or alternative or punk.

Couch is very adamantly a punk band and I can't imagine any of them having any pretensions of playing hardcore. The bands they are closest to, you'd never call hardcore. The closest term would be pogo punk.

uberscheisse · Joined: 02 Dec 2003 Location: japan is better than korea.

RACETRAITOR · Joined: 24 Oct 2005 Location: Seoul, South Korea

Well punk is more than a sound so they're both sort of like competing definitions in this case.

There's a good enough chance you were thinking of the Patients (different from Patience) or Bootbois Anthem or someone. Even a lot of the Chaos Class bands sip from the cup of hardcore a little.