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Sleeping pills for long flights
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sistersarah



Joined: 03 Jan 2004
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 17, 2006 1:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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is Melatonine still illegal in Canada?


was it? is it?
i'd like to know before i head over. thanks for asking that question.
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Wangja



Joined: 17 May 2004
Location: Seoul, Yongsan

PostPosted: Sat Jun 17, 2006 1:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Melatonin is a substance generated by one's body around sunset and helps to tell the body it's time to sleep. As one ages, Melatonin is not produced in sufficient quantitoes to give this message. Similarly, if one is disoriented by time, the melatonin is generated at the worng time.

It is 100% natural and not to be confused with sleeping tablets.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melatonin
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Harpeau



Joined: 01 Feb 2003
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 17, 2006 8:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know all that, but is it still illegal? Because it was in Canada 10 years ago.
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sistersarah



Joined: 03 Jan 2004
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 17, 2006 7:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Melatonin is a substance generated by one's body around sunset and helps to tell the body it's time to sleep. As one ages, Melatonin is not produced in sufficient quantitoes to give this message. Similarly, if one is disoriented by time, the melatonin is generated at the worng time.

It is 100% natural and not to be confused with sleeping tablets.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melatonin


so, you obviously can get it in korea. how do you ask for it?
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Wangja



Joined: 17 May 2004
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 17, 2006 9:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Go to a pharmacy and say "Melatonin issoyo?"
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sistersarah



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 18, 2006 5:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.com/index.cfm?PgNm=TCE&Params=M1ARTM0010549

interesting article on melatonin.
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JongnoGuru



Joined: 25 May 2004
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 18, 2006 6:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

jjurabong wrote:
They sell sleeping pills here called azol - pronounced "ajol" and another one called aron. Some pharmacies will say a prescription is required, but most will just give them to you - they are non-addictive. ( I used to live in a super noisy neighbourhood and am a very light sleeper.)

Be aware though - I have tried taking them on planes, as I'm just like you - can't sleep sitting up and am a fearful flyer to boot. They didn't knock me out like they did when I was in bed, and just ended up making me feel out of it, and uncomfortable.

"Out of it and uncomfortable" don't even begin to describe how horrible that feeling is, for me anyway, of being dead tired, doped up & desperate but just unable to $&#*@! fall asleep on long-haul flights. "Non-stop agony and gruelling torture" would be far more accurate.

I think for most people, it's a case of just wanting to be well-rested, refreshed & alert so they can hit the ground running at their destination, whether due to appointments there or just because. My case is different. I want and desperately need to sleep on the flight because I'm physically exhausted and sleep-deprived when I board the damn plane at Incheon.

It's always tricky business to arrange long trips for me because of work and things going on here in Korea. So I typically pull the Gurufic stunt of leaving all the packing & whatnot till the night before my departure. That means little or no sleep the night before I fly out.

So there I am with my bags & ticket at the check-in counter, looking & feeling like shlt warmed over, anxious beyond reasoning to get my aching tired ass on board and knock myself out. I wouldn't mind sleeping straight through the meals & movies if I can. And it used to be that I could; I've even managed to nod off before the plane leaves the runway.

But then something changed and I just can't seem to do it anymore. The engine rumble is always a few decibels too high, the chair recline angle always a few degrees too narrow. So then come the drugs, three different types I've experimented with and all of them failed. No words come to mind that fairly describe that ghastly, nasty, painful feeling when your body is dying for sleep and you're f---ked up on medication THAT WON'T WORK, and the damned minutes and hours, they crawl along at a maddening, excruciating slow pace.

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They are cheap, so I recommend trying some before you get on the plane, to make sure they don't have a bad reaction for you.

The only "bad reaction" for me is they just don't work, at least not on a plane. The problem is that you can't really be sure if they'll work on a flight until you're up there, trapped and totally relying on them.

I think one sure-fire remedy is to fly business class. Yeah, I know I'm a jerk for saying that, but... so what? Anyway, I never had a problem sleeping up there, even without meds. That was when someone else was paying for my ticket, but since I've been working for myself I just don't consider me worth the extra cost. Crying or Very sad
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kangnam mafioso



Joined: 27 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 18, 2006 6:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have you flown on Air Xanax?

It's the best. Skip the over the counter medications ... they don't work very good at all, although better than nothing.

Get a couple of valium or xanax or ambien from your doctor and have a beer, but don't over do it.

Service makes a big difference too. Avoid American/Canadian airlines and go with the Asian ones.
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sistersarah



Joined: 03 Jan 2004
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 18, 2006 9:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

my doctor prescribed ambien for me once. it didn't do a thing.
i'm interested in this melatonin stuff, though.
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jmbran11



Joined: 19 Jan 2006
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 18, 2006 10:55 pm    Post subject: Prescription sleeping meds Reply with quote

I am flying home next month, and I have the same problem. I would like to get some prescription ambien (or valium), but I don't know where they are prescribed. I once went to a (now closed) clinic in Itaewon, where the doctor would prescribe one at a time - because if I had more I might kill myslef, he said.

Can anyone suggest a doctor or clinic that would prescribe them that is open on Saturdays?
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jjurabong



Joined: 22 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 5:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The doctor at the international clinic in Itaewon was very liberal with the xanax he prescribed for me. I told him that I was a very fearful flyer with an 18-20 hour trek home and back and he gave me 20 of the extra strength ones then and there.

I couldn't recommend him for much else, but I understand that he's pretty generous with prescriptions.

Here' s the website:

http://www.internationalclinic.co.kr/
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blackjack



Joined: 04 Jan 2006
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 9:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

if you read the latest time mag then there is an article about melatonin, it says that researchers have found that melatonin has no effect at increasing sleep efficiency during your normal night time, however it does help you sleep during your normal day time. This means that if you are on a night flight then there is no point but if you are on a day flight then it might help.

Also it goes on to say that small doses are more effective than large doses But then again there is also the placebo effect as well, you feel tired because you have taken a sleeping tablet.

The article does say that it was a very small sample size, but a very well conducted experiment
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