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djsmnc
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| I'm more scared of a world dominated by hip-hop junk culture. Oh...wait a minute... |
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igotthisguitar
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| Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 4:21 am Post subject: |
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| djsmnc wrote: |
| I'm more scared of a world dominated by hip-hop junk culture. Oh...wait a minute... |
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Tony_Balony
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| Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 4:29 am Post subject: |
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However, if true, would this statement startle you: There are more Muslims than Christians in the world.
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Not in the least. Church attendance in Europe being what it is, it wouldn't surprise me at all if there were more active Muslims than active Christians in the world. But so what? Politcal, cultural, and economic power aren't measured by raw numbers. |
Hi - I had a discussion with another poster about this outlook but I said that Hitler was atheist because he didn't go to church regularly. My opponent said no.
Further, not attending church has never dismissed anyone from being a Christian. It just makes you a sinful one. What does "active" mean?
You are not familiar with Christian tenets so you need to stop commenting on them. |
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On the other hand
Joined: 19 Apr 2003
Location: I walk along the avenue
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| Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 8:18 am Post subject: |
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| Tony_Balony wrote: |
| On the other hand wrote: |
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However, if true, would this statement startle you: There are more Muslims than Christians in the world.
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Not in the least. Church attendance in Europe being what it is, it wouldn't surprise me at all if there were more active Muslims than active Christians in the world. But so what? Politcal, cultural, and economic power aren't measured by raw numbers. |
Hi - I had a discussion with another poster about this outlook but I said that Hitler was atheist because he didn't go to church regularly. My opponent said no.
Further, not attending church has never dismissed anyone from being a Christian. It just makes you a sinful one. What does "active" mean?
You are not familiar with Christian tenets so you need to stop commenting on them. |
Umm, I would not say that I am completely unfamilar with Christian tenets, having attended Catholic mass every week for twenty years and gone to Catholic schools, not to mention reading everything about Christianity that I can get my hands on.
I think that you were correct to argue that Hitler was not a Christian in any meaningful sense of the word, regardless of how often he attended mass. And while I have known a few Christians who regard themselves as being alienated from the church and don't attend services, I would wager that overall there is a pretty strong correlaion between attending services and regarding oneself as a serious Christian. I can't prove that right now, but it just seems like a fairly commonsensical assumption. |
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SPINOZA
Joined: 10 Jun 2005
Location: $eoul
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| Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 1:45 pm Post subject: |
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I think that you were correct to argue that Hitler was not a Christian in any meaningful sense of the word, regardless of how often he attended mass. |
| Hitler Myths, however, wrote: |
The evidence shows that:
Hitler was born and baptized into Catholicism
His Jewish antisemitism came from his Christian background.
His early personal notes shows his interest in religion and Biblical views.
He believed that the Bible represented the history of mankind.
His Nazi party platform (their version of a constitution) included a section on Positive Christianity, and he never removed it.
He confessed his Christianity.
He tried to establish a united Reich German Church.
Hitler allowed the destruction of Jewish synagogues and temples, but not Christian churches.
He encouraged Nazis to worship in Christian churches.
He spoke of his Christian beliefs in his speeches and proclamations.
His contemporaries, friends, Protestant ministers and Catholics priests, including the Vatican, thought of Hitler as a Christian.
The Catholic Church never excommunicated Hitler. He died a Catholic.
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See where I'm going with this?
http://www.nobeliefs.com/Hitler1.htm |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
Joined: 25 May 2003
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| Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 6:35 pm Post subject: Re: ... |
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| So, is Islam the new USSR? |
No Iran is. |
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